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Books and lectures don't work

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Re: Books and lectures don't work

#12
I do believe it would be possible and advisable to create an interactive medium on the web that leverages spaced repetition and maybe integrates with other apps to periodically remind you or quiz you on facts you should know. It's an intriguing idea.

Re: Books and lectures don't work

#14
For both the main problem is that there comes a point where you lose track of what's happening.

I think that the main problem with lectures is that each feels very simple during the intro and very complicated towards the end. Generally there's some steps that you just missed. It's hard to pause the lecture and go back. Each additional minute of being lost then feels like a waste of time. The audience is generally at different wavelengths (some are advanced in some ways, some advanced in others). I think that lectures are the worse medium, I personally prefer books.

With book, you need to make a difference whether you picked up the book because you have a concrete question or if you want to read it and memorize it.

The way I read is that I read a book in 5 passes (each time with different speed and for different purpose).

Pass 1 (10 minutes): Develop a lattice on which to put information. What is the book really about? Try to memorize the Table of Content, read the index (there should be some words you are curious about, you've been seeing them a lot but if prompted you'd draw blank. If there are no such words, why are you reading this book?). After this pass, your comprehension might be like 5%.

Pass 2 (2 hours): Casually skim the book. You won't remember much but you'll start seeing some connections. After this reading you should be able to tell what are the things the book say that you already know, and what things are new to you. Expected comprehension 15%. You should be familiar with the vocabulary of the book, but you might not know the exact meanings.

Pass 3: (n hours): The longest part. You might realize that some chapters are actually not as great as you thought and vice versa. You should understand like 60% after this.

Pass 4: (m hours where m Pass 5: Again, go through and pick up what you missed.

Reading this way, is way more engaging than reading things linearly. The structure of the book will imprint on your brain. You will skip around a lot (that's a good things). The worst part about learning is that you don't know what to do when you are stuck. Sometimes, doing your best and coming back later (maybe once you've read the other chapters) is surprisingly productive. Hard things become trivial. Maybe you can even do more than one solution to each problem.

Re: Books and lectures don't work

#16
A good thing to keep in mind is that you will have access to any newly derived conclusions you made during the reading of the book. The brain likes to repeat itself and when you read you are training yourselves to repeat the thoughts of the author on the subject, you might not exactly be able to recreate said thoughts but does this really matter?

Re: Books and lectures don't work

#18

I used to believe this too until I was taught how to read a book, a skill that unfortunately is taken for granted and hasn’t made its way into curriculums. Reading “thinking fast thinking slow” should not take 8-9 hours... it could easily take 50 (after all, it represents many years and thousands of hours of work by the preeminent thinker on the subject). Scholars have spent a lifetime studying the Inferno. I am typi…

A good book that also touches on this subject is: "moonwalking with einstein the art and science of remembering everything". It also covers the subject of priming and why its important.

People used to memorize entire books by studying them for years. In a time before printing presses were a thing it was considered normal to spent long long hours learning the contents of a book by heart.

Re: Books and lectures don't work

#19
"most ... readers don’t absorb the intended knowledge. Failure is the default here."

All I could think while reading the article is, "If this medium is so ineffective, why is the author using it to transmit his information?" But then, maybe I didn't absorb the material well enough to get the point, which strengthens his argument! Genius!

Re: Books and lectures don't work

#20

Books were a product of their time. Interactive media allows us to leverage techniques such as annotations, in-context model building and testing, building memorization using spaced repetition which should make an immense difference in learning effectiveness. It's a shame that Google, who wanted to organize all of the world's information, still struggles if you want to find best learning resources (books, videos, pod…

What would make your project really useful is if a user can choose a level of detail to get a summary of a given resource (book, course etc) in her preferred format. Perhaps, I just want a 5-minute summary to read or a 20-minute audio summary to listen on my commute. This is of-course a hard problem to solve via software, but manual summarization can go a long way.
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