It would be great to see a concise, relatively non-technical introduction to what is AMP and why is it bad for the open web that I could send to friends and family.
Google Creates 'Dedicated Placement' in Search Results for AMP Stories
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#32You know what I hate about google search possibly most of all? It doesn't list the actual URLs as hyperlinks. It lists part of them, and then has a google tracking URL as an actual link. Some times, I want to copy a URL without visiting it to use elsewhere. Sometimes, clicking it will cause the page to redirect, meaning I have to copy really quickly. I wish they would stop doing this. For reference, you have to right…
That is how they know which results are good and which send people straight back to the results page. And, it's going away thanks to the new "ping" HTML attribute.
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#33Well, here it is. This is the straw that broke the camel's back for me: I've finally been motivated to switch my browser default to Duck Duck Go.
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#34Glad to see that HN'ers are seeing this for what it is: another Google idea that's sold as "benefitting users" when the only real beneficiary is Google's ad revenue and control over eyeballs.
I'll echo the many here who report that, for everyday use, DDG is far preferable. I've only needed Google for arcane programming links or occasional news stories.
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#35As much as I'm often dismayed by the negativity on HN (or, let's say, brutal honesty: "this product is shit!") - harsh reactions are definitely warranted for cases like this anti-competitive behavior. Let's keep raising the stink, I hope the powers that be are paying attention. (Long-time DDG and Firefox user, doing my best to de-Google myself and my loved ones)
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#36After switching to DDG few years ago, I used google search again for the first time in a while was surprised How bad their search has become. Not because it’s not good, it’s still better than DDG at certain things, but because the results have been crowded out by so much junk. There were so many ads, snippets, did you also means, and AMP widgets that there was only room for about eight actual search results. How have…
I have been using startpage.com. I find it even better than ddg. It feels as google used to a few years ago.
Startpage is just anonymized Google search right? Or did I miss a change to their service?
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#37After switching to DDG few years ago, I used google search again for the first time in a while was surprised How bad their search has become. Not because it’s not good, it’s still better than DDG at certain things, but because the results have been crowded out by so much junk. There were so many ads, snippets, did you also means, and AMP widgets that there was only room for about eight actual search results. How have…
Same here but I wanted to add that search is at par 100% on the main search tab. Almost identical but less ads on DDG. Not sure about the images, they seem to just be different images. Google is better at news search. That's the only place I've noticed DDG not being as good at. But DDG is FAR superior as a user experience IMO because of the bangs https://duckduckgo.com/bang
My only issue with DDG (which doesn’t stop me using it) is if you turn off safe search (eg to prevent false positive blocks for something you want to find) holy shit does a lot of porn show up - for completely non-sexual terms.
I’m a big boy, I’m not offended by most of it (the frequency of bizarre Simpson’s porn is a little weird) but it’s somewhat weird the way it appears.
I searched for “power Mac case door”, all fine (with safe search off), as you’d expect. Change “type” to gif, expecting to see images of the hinged door on the g3/g4 series... oh wow that’s a lot of porn. And lots of other weird unrelated stuff.
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#38Slightly off-topic, but without "reading mode" that site is unreadable.
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#39Seriously, I just don't get these hateful comments on Hacker News regarding AMP. It helps websites load fast on mobile, and users really appreciate when websites load fast.
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#40More AMP bullshit.
But, as a pretty staunch anti-Google company, why does DDG send me to AMP links? Give me the ducking (autocorrect pun!) canonical URL!