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Pilotwings demos act differently depending on when the cartridge was made

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Already mentioned here before: https://twitter.com/Foone/status/1066547670477488128

It's like every time anyone writes anything about CockroachDB, the top comment has to be "yeah but the name tho..."

They should change the name! It's a terrible name and it's cost them an inestimable amount of users.

Re: Pilotwings demos act differently depending on when the cartridge was made

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post #61

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(Spoiler) My understanding was that the "perfect" landing was first, using the old version of the chip. Then the new chip changed the physics calculations and the demo replay became a crash landing. So the "crash landing" cartridges are the newer revisions and I'd guess the motivation to change the ship was a simple "update this dependency to the newest version".

It's a bit different than that. The newer version here is physical. So they would stop making the older version at some point. Not like software that the old version is always available. They likely realised it was happening, but just didn't think fixing it was worth it.

To fix it you would need to issue a new mask ROM, with all the associated tooling costs.

Re: Pilotwings demos act differently depending on when the cartridge was made

#113

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It's like every time anyone writes anything about CockroachDB, the top comment has to be "yeah but the name tho..."

They should change the name! It's a terrible name and it's cost them an inestimable amount of users.

They should change the name to “Clockroach” considering they lose correctness guarantees when the clock drifts beyond a preconfigured uncertainty window.

Re: Pilotwings demos act differently depending on when the cartridge was made

#114

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Came here to say the same. Someone needs to tell these people that Twitter is not a blogging service...

Or you should be a little more sensitive and read about the OP and why he doesn't use a blog (severe ADHD).

To be fair, a lot of people (mis)use twitter as a blogging platform. I think it's more likely GP was complaining about that trend than being insensitive that this one author has ADHD.

(Someone will always complain about this on HN whenever there is a twitter thread posted here, though I do get why the author gets annoyed with these complaints.)

Re: Pilotwings demos act differently depending on when the cartridge was made

#115
post #85
post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(Spoiler) My understanding was that the "perfect" landing was first, using the old version of the chip. Then the new chip changed the physics calculations and the demo replay became a crash landing. So the "crash landing" cartridges are the newer revisions and I'd guess the motivation to change the ship was a simple "update this dependency to the newest version".

It's a bit different than that. The newer version here is physical. So they would stop making the older version at some point. Not like software that the old version is always available. They likely realised it was happening, but just didn't think fixing it was worth it.

Good point. I wonder if the devs of the game even consciously decided the change at all or if the DSP1 supplier at one point simply started shipping the version with the fix.

Which, ironically, would be an early example of forced automatic updates messing things up.

Re: Pilotwings demos act differently depending on when the cartridge was made

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post #90

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His Twitter is Patreon funded which he literally never advertises, so I will do it for him. https://www.patreon.com/foone

It's "literally" in the bio.

I haven't seen him tweet about it once.

Re: Pilotwings demos act differently depending on when the cartridge was made

#117
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I'm not a fan of this essay type thing being on twitter, split into lots of little tweets.

Twitter seems to be in this weird space where they have enough usability positives over other social media (pretty broadly accessible, doesn't pester you to log in, you can post NSFW content without it getting taken down) that I guess people just force themselves to use it, even if a blog post would be better formatted.

Twitter does pester you to log in when scrolling down someone's profile, I think. Maybe it was on mobile.

Re: Pilotwings demos act differently depending on when the cartridge was made

#118

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But SNES was before N64 - this person (me too!) wants a Pilotwings 64 sequel!

I was commenting about the SNES version of Pilotwings also not having a proper sequel. Been wanting one since '92 or so, don't remember when I beat it for the first time. Also, my copy of Pilotwings the Biplane crashes, always thought it was weird that the demo would do that. Guess I'm gonna have to find a copy with the other chip.

Oh! I was assuming the N64 version was a sequel of the SNES version. Never thought of them as unrelated.

Re: Pilotwings demos act differently depending on when the cartridge was made

#119
post #97

I'm not a fan of this essay type thing being on twitter, split into lots of little tweets.

For me, it just shows up as a bunch of text, approximately divided into paragraphs, with images interspersed, which I can scroll through. Is it different for you?

Re: Pilotwings demos act differently depending on when the cartridge was made

#120

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It's like every time anyone writes anything about CockroachDB, the top comment has to be "yeah but the name tho..."

They should change the name! It's a terrible name and it's cost them an inestimable amount of users.

They who place shallow attributes above merit, deserve neither.
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