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HP Spectre 15 x360 2019 review: Carving a niche in a crowded space

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Re: HP Spectre 15 x360 2019 review: Carving a niche in a crowded space

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I want my hands to be in the middle of the laptop. No numpad for me please.

Numpad in the middle of a split keyboard could be somehow sensible. Then make the split keyboard ergonomic, like ergodox, and add a trackpoint. Sadly, likely too radical for a business laptop.

Oh yes please! I am a diehard Kinesis Freestyle user and would kill for a split keyboard laptop.

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Definitely. It ruins the aesthetics and is completely unnecessary . If I really, really need one, i'd rather just use an externally dongle'd numpad.

A choice between aesthetics and usability.

I find an off-centre keyboard to be a bigger usability problem than not having a numpad.

Re: HP Spectre 15 x360 2019 review: Carving a niche in a crowded space

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The 15 suffers similar issues as the 13 inch 2019 spectre and other whiskey lake hp laptops - many USB-C devices, including perfectly compliant chargers, cause it to hard lock (firmware/bios bug, not blue screen). In my case, compliant devices (such as phones), EGPU docks, caused the hard lock.

You can test this by bringing an official apple charger and cable to Best Buy. When I bought mine, I was sure it was a hardware issue until I demonstrated it on every floor model laptop by plugging in an official apple charger and my pixel 3, crashing each one instantly.

HP said that they would release a firmware update that fixed this but I don't know if it's out yet. I returned my spectre and bought a razer - this kind of bug is 100% inexcusable.

TLDR: If you purchase one of these, make sure to do it from a place that doesn't do restocking fees, apply the most recent BIOS update, and then test the laptop with multiple USB-C devices (and cables). A shame - I really liked the hardware.

Re: HP Spectre 15 x360 2019 review: Carving a niche in a crowded space

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I have the 2018 15" Spectre as my work laptop. It's running linux really well. No 10-key number pad, which I'm happy with. I don't understand this article's complaint about the "small" touchpad. It's fine. You also have the entire touch screen if you like. It's really too big to use in tablet mode, but occasionally I try it just for fun. Overall 15" feels bigger than I'd like to lug around, but it's pretty thin so it…

Just opened the article and saw the display is as reflective as a mirror[1]. Holy cow, how can you even work like that?! [1] https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/HP-x3...

Having used the 13 in with the same display - it's really bright. Like, way brighter at the same power consumption than any other laptop I've used. It's actually pretty incredible.

But then, I don't make a habit of computing outdoors. Also, I mostly work with a large, external monitor. So I guess it's not as big of a deal for me.

Re: HP Spectre 15 x360 2019 review: Carving a niche in a crowded space

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The 15 suffers similar issues as the 13 inch 2019 spectre and other whiskey lake hp laptops - many USB-C devices, including perfectly compliant chargers, cause it to hard lock (firmware/bios bug, not blue screen). In my case, compliant devices (such as phones), EGPU docks, caused the hard lock. You can test this by bringing an official apple charger and cable to Best Buy. When I bought mine, I was sure it was a hardw…

I experienced the same, but have had little luck finding more data about it. Got any details on where they've indicated that firmware update is coming?

In my case, I set up dual-boot on my 13" Spectre. The Macbook USB-C charger has never once locked up the machine when I'm running Linux, but 100% when I'm in Windows, which makes me suspect a Windows driver issue.

Re: HP Spectre 15 x360 2019 review: Carving a niche in a crowded space

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Is there anyone else that cannot stand the numpad being put onto a laptop keyboard? The laptop looks good enough but the keyboard layout means I would never get one.

My issue with the laptop is it looks like the kind of laptop I'd expect to see someone that is wearing a fake Rolex to have.

Completely baseless but it's all I think of when I see it. Just looks like a snobby laptop.

I think it's largely because of the brand stickers.

Re: HP Spectre 15 x360 2019 review: Carving a niche in a crowded space

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I still have an older (2016) x360 I've used as a dev machine running linux (various flavors) since I bought it. Initially there were wi-fi issues on Ubuntu distros, but those have since been sorted out. I've had absurdly good luck with HP laptops lasting much longer than they should.

For reference, have the smaller intel Core i3 model with 6GB of RAM. It is capable of running Dota 2 at 50-60 fps (using vulkan). I use a drop-down terminal with nvim, peppering in vs-code, to develop software in all sorts of languages. You will notice the resource limits with heavier IDEs and bigger compiles though. Good affordable option for people.

Re: HP Spectre 15 x360 2019 review: Carving a niche in a crowded space

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post #10

I have the 2018 15" Spectre as my work laptop. It's running linux really well. No 10-key number pad, which I'm happy with. I don't understand this article's complaint about the "small" touchpad. It's fine. You also have the entire touch screen if you like. It's really too big to use in tablet mode, but occasionally I try it just for fun. Overall 15" feels bigger than I'd like to lug around, but it's pretty thin so it…

Very good to hear about Linux. Pity there seems to be no OLED option: https://www.engadget.com/2019/01/08/dell-4k-oled-xps-alienwa...
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