Terry Davis was extremely talented. He also had his demons. I dunno if there was anything he could do about them. But let's not pretend he didn't have them. He said some terrible stuff: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/wiki/Terry_Davis.
It's time to replace GIFs with AV1 video
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Re: It's time to replace GIFs with AV1 video
#282In order to truly have a shot at replacing gifs, it has to be as frictionless to use as gifs are. That means being able to refer to it with a single, simply tag.
and, in addition, for as many people as possible to support opening of av1s as they do with gifs.
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#283Terry Davis was extremely talented. He also had his demons. I dunno if there was anything he could do about them. But let's not pretend he didn't have them. He said some terrible stuff: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/wiki/Terry_Davis .
I'm sorry, but your comment has no place here.
I was discussing a dead soul with reverence and respect. That is not the time to jump in with "oh but actually he was terrible". That is incredibly rude and poor taste and disrespectful to the dead.
Terry Davis suffered greatly from mental illness, specifically schizophrenia. He suffered from confusion. It's quite disgusting that you try to cite some of the ridiculous things he's said as reasons he is terrible. He did not have full autonomy over his thoughts and words.
You should be ashamed of yourself.
Re: It's time to replace GIFs with AV1 video
#284Terry Davis was extremely talented. He also had his demons. I dunno if there was anything he could do about them. But let's not pretend he didn't have them. He said some terrible stuff: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/wiki/Terry_Davis .
Nobody cares what he said.
We can differentiate between a talented person with some health issues, and what those health issues make them say -- and not consider them bad because of mere words under mental stress.
Re: It's time to replace GIFs with AV1 video
#285The most important part of GIFs for me is that they behave like images in browsers. They are always auto-playing with no concept of play and pause. You can drag and drop them from a browser to your desktop to save them. You can save an entire page and have all the image files save with it. I've never had this work for webm or other video formats. You could even argue that GIFs not being a video with no video decoding…
I can't find it quickly now, but I recall some browser vendor (perhaps Apple?) discussing support for videos in tags, but having them behave like gifs as you describe. Not sure what became of that.
Re: It's time to replace GIFs with AV1 video
#286Earlier quoted context omitted.
For best results, use a Slack channel, or a forum reply page with an array of animated smileys.
Slack doesn't exactly have the most efficiently implemented front-end interface.
Ah, yes, I didn't realize that Slack's platform reimplemented the whole graphics-formats-rendering stack. I naively thought that Electron and Slack inherited that from Chromium, but guess stupid me is way behind the times in this technicky stuff. Of course it's all in Javascript now, what was I thinking!
Re: It's time to replace GIFs with AV1 video
#287I kind of thought it was pointless until i saw the file size difference. From 11.7 Meg to 330k is pretty good.
Re: It's time to replace GIFs with AV1 video
#288Earlier quoted context omitted.
What I'm saying is, in uses akin to this article, apng is not a meaningful upgrade over gif. It's a huge upgrade for certain kinds of content, especially animated icons with aliased edges. But that narrowness means there's only a moderately small push toward adoption.
In principle it has the same advantages PNG has over GIF for static images -- 24-bit color and 8-bit alpha, both of which are a big deal. APNG or something similar should have replaced GIF completely, but the delivery was badly fumbled. Browsers now mostly support it, but authoring tools mostly don’t.
More color depth is sort of useful for heavily compressed video. Transparency very rarely matters in that use case.
Re: It's time to replace GIFs with AV1 video
#289Earlier quoted context omitted.
In principle it has the same advantages PNG has over GIF for static images -- 24-bit color and 8-bit alpha, both of which are a big deal. APNG or something similar should have replaced GIF completely, but the delivery was badly fumbled. Browsers now mostly support it, but authoring tools mostly don’t.
More color depth is sort of useful for heavily compressed video. Transparency very rarely matters in that use case.
“Sort of useful”?? 8-bit versus 24-bit color is like night and day!
Transparency for video is kind of a niche thing, sure, but when you need it you really need it. A good example would be compositing green-screen footage. (Keying transparency on a specific color is exactly the kind of hack GIF uses, whereas PNG does it properly, with a separate alpha channel.)
Omitting obvious stuff like an alpha channel because you don’t think anyone needs it is exactly the kind of oversight that makes all these “modern” video formats unable to completely replace GIFs. Looping is another example.
Re: It's time to replace GIFs with AV1 video
#290Terry Davis was extremely talented. He also had his demons. I dunno if there was anything he could do about them. But let's not pretend he didn't have them. He said some terrible stuff: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/wiki/Terry_Davis .
I'm sorry, but your comment has no place here. I was discussing a dead soul with reverence and respect. That is not the time to jump in with "oh but actually he was terrible". That is incredibly rude and poor taste and disrespectful to the dead. Terry Davis suffered greatly from mental illness, specifically schizophrenia. He suffered from confusion. It's quite disgusting that you try to cite some of the ridiculous th…
Right after someone dies, there may be people mourning them, so it's terribly disrespectful to criticize the dead person. That concern about disrespect is largely about respecting the mourning process.
But, after some time has passed, we should be able to discuss and evaluate a person's impact (good and bad). Otherwise history would be impossible to write.
It's been eight months. I think it's okay to acknowledge the full range of what Davis said.
Grandparent comment didn't say Davis was terrible, as you claim; the words were "He said some terrible stuff".