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Re: Blue Moon

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Post by nradov »

marstomorrow wrote: post #21
pier25 wrote: post #15

Astronauts train for years before going to space. Do these space tourism companies pretend that anyone with enough cash can do it?

Elon's stated goal re: astronauts and training is that the technology should be sufficiently simplified to let anyone go up with minimal training. The idea of a heavily-trained astronaut is old, and the new thinking is that the people going to space should be able to spend their time up their doing whatever it is they are good at - even if just vacationing - rather than learning how to fly spacecraft etc. I know this…

Someone has to fly and troubleshoot the spacecraft when the inevitable failures occur. Most of the astronauts can be basically passengers but there has to be at least one pilot who knows how to switch SCE to AUX without a moment's hesitation.

Re: Blue Moon

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Post by Aeolun »

cwkoss wrote: post #53

I'd like to see us put two return rockets on the moon. Would increase the safety factor of all future manned missions significantly if a crash landing wouldn't necessarily mean death. If you could safely verify the return vehicle is ready to go before sending the people, you could potentially use a one-way lander, vastly decreasing launch weight.

Unfortunately You’d have to have another launch for the return vehicle.

From an efficiency perspective sending both in one go seems a bit more efficient to me (but I’m not certain, it’s possible it costs exponential amounts of fuel)

Re: Blue Moon

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Post by Aeolun »

lalos wrote: post #48

Anybody willing to bet he will announce building an 'Amazon Sphere' like structure in the moon? Feel like that project was an experiment for later use on his other endeavors but using Amazon's deep pockets to pay for it.

That’d be some office.

Re: Blue Moon

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Post by Aeolun »

Is there anyone else that feels like Blue Origin actually has a chance of making their own timelines, as opposed to SpaceX?

Don’t get me wrong, I love SpaceX, but the down to earth way in which Blue Origin appears to be working also appeals to me.

Re: Blue Moon

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Post by PHGamer »

Aeolun wrote: post #74

Is there anyone else that feels like Blue Origin actually has a chance of making their own timelines, as opposed to SpaceX? Don’t get me wrong, I love SpaceX, but the down to earth way in which Blue Origin appears to be working also appeals to me.

but hasnt spacex done more? i feel like blue origin is actually behind.

Re: Blue Moon

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Post by sbjustin »

jkmcf wrote: post #30
pier25 wrote: post #15

Astronauts train for years before going to space. Do these space tourism companies pretend that anyone with enough cash can do it?

Astronauts train for doing astronaut things like spacewalks and other zero-g activities. I would expect a tourist needs to demonstrate they have the fortitude to: 1. Not Die 2. (Possibly) not lose their shit (any definition) These can probably be handled with a centrifuge after the tourist demonstrates surviving an extreme rollercoaster.

>(Possibly) not lose their shit (any definition)

This is the funniest thing I've read all day.

Re: Blue Moon

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Post by elamje »

johnvega wrote: post #44
muricula wrote: post #42

Blue origin can't build a moon rocket by 2024, so maybe they can settle for the lander. Here's the vision I bet they're aiming for: a Spacex rocket, a United Launch Alliance capsule, a Blue Origin lander, and a round of pork barrel in every Congressional district.

I'm seeing a lot of exponential technology. If Jeff B. takes more risk and focus, it could be possible. We'll see.

Not sure why you got downvoted

Re: Blue Moon

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Post by bufferoverflow »

PHGamer wrote: post #75
Aeolun wrote: post #74

Is there anyone else that feels like Blue Origin actually has a chance of making their own timelines, as opposed to SpaceX? Don’t get me wrong, I love SpaceX, but the down to earth way in which Blue Origin appears to be working also appeals to me.

but hasnt spacex done more? i feel like blue origin is actually behind.

Considering the amount of money Bezos has, Blue Origin is far far behind. They only achieved suborbital flights with low-speed reentry landings.

Re: Blue Moon

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Post by themodelplumber »

Aeolun wrote: post #74

Is there anyone else that feels like Blue Origin actually has a chance of making their own timelines, as opposed to SpaceX? Don’t get me wrong, I love SpaceX, but the down to earth way in which Blue Origin appears to be working also appeals to me.

Based on Bezos' psychology I'd guess that Blue Origin are under tremendous pressure to meet timelines, especially at the cost of trying anything fancy. Bezos is going to be solid in this game if he's able to apply his basic tool set. Plus I'll bet he's feeling fairly triggered by SpaceX. They will attempt to scale faster based on spreadsheet thinking. If SpaceX tries to compete with that, they will fail. They will need to refocus on innovation as soon as it becomes a numbers game.

Re: Blue Moon

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Post by darkerside »

cwkoss wrote: post #53

I'd like to see us put two return rockets on the moon. Would increase the safety factor of all future manned missions significantly if a crash landing wouldn't necessarily mean death. If you could safely verify the return vehicle is ready to go before sending the people, you could potentially use a one-way lander, vastly decreasing launch weight.

And it just sits there in the hopes of never being used? That's one expensive ass insurance policy
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