Xamarin isn't either. It really is whatever open source cross-platform UI leads the pack. I am really impressed by Qt Apps, but I also am not happy with their licensing. I would like to see something new with Vulkan desktop integration. I think Microsoft really needs to reconsider what is important, and I believe them working on open source will have to be a better commitment. They should pay some of their Kubernetes engineers and Linux engineers work on a Linux Kernel OS. There are just certain nuances about their OS that they can't seem to grasp, especially when it comes to Mac at least application packaging better Windows. Choco for GUI apps is awful, and the only solution will be application containers, and Linux is likely going to outpace them... and I see more and more great apps for Linux. I don't think it will be too much longer.
Microsoft Confirms UWP Is Not the Future of Windows Apps
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Re: Microsoft Confirms UWP Is Not the Future of Windows Apps
#22I'll be really happy if UWP will die. I don't care for the visual side it offers at all, and the UX is simply terrible compared to the good old Win32. Maybe I'm missing something, but the feeling I got regarding UWP is that it is an effort to unify the UX across all platforms and devices by aiming to lowest common denominator of all platforms. It meant that simple and useful utility like calc became a visually bloate…
If you look at the history of Microsoft across platforms, with the exception of the Xbox they've been pushing the unified paradigm for decades. It's one of the things that really set the iPad apart at release- a tablet that didn't try to re-use the desktop paradigm, as opposed to the parade of previously failed Microsoft tablet attempts. UWP was simply an attempt to do the same thing from the opposite direction, with the same poor result. It seems to be lesson that's been very hard for them to learn.
Re: Microsoft Confirms UWP Is Not the Future of Windows Apps
#23To be clear, this is just an opinion piece by someone not at Microsoft. And since the article starts with "As I predicted", I'd take it with a grain of salt.
Re: Microsoft Confirms UWP Is Not the Future of Windows Apps
#24I'll be really happy if UWP will die. I don't care for the visual side it offers at all, and the UX is simply terrible compared to the good old Win32. Maybe I'm missing something, but the feeling I got regarding UWP is that it is an effort to unify the UX across all platforms and devices by aiming to lowest common denominator of all platforms. It meant that simple and useful utility like calc became a visually bloate…
> Isn't it obvious that mobile apps UI/UX is poor...
Isn't this the direction that MacOS is going too? I hear complaints of "iOS apps" becoming default on macOS too.
Re: Microsoft Confirms UWP Is Not the Future of Windows Apps
#25Xamarin isn't either. It really is whatever open source cross-platform UI leads the pack. I am really impressed by Qt Apps, but I also am not happy with their licensing. I would like to see something new with Vulkan desktop integration. I think Microsoft really needs to reconsider what is important, and I believe them working on open source will have to be a better commitment. They should pay some of their Kubernetes…
What issues you've encountered with installing GUI apps with chocolatey?
Re: Microsoft Confirms UWP Is Not the Future of Windows Apps
#26I'll be really happy if UWP will die. I don't care for the visual side it offers at all, and the UX is simply terrible compared to the good old Win32. Maybe I'm missing something, but the feeling I got regarding UWP is that it is an effort to unify the UX across all platforms and devices by aiming to lowest common denominator of all platforms. It meant that simple and useful utility like calc became a visually bloate…
Didn't they fire the guy behind Windows 8?
Microsoft took mobile-first too literally and applied it to their entire OS
Re: Microsoft Confirms UWP Is Not the Future of Windows Apps
#27What is the current recommended API if you want to build a big new desktop GUI application for Windows today? Something demanding like a CAD application, perhaps. Something you'd have built using MFC or pure Window API in the past.
FTA:
> And the way we know that’s true is that Win32, WPF, and WinForms have all been “elevated to full status”—Gallo’s words—in Windows 10 all these years later.
I guess these three.
Re: Microsoft Confirms UWP Is Not the Future of Windows Apps
#28Xamarin isn't either. It really is whatever open source cross-platform UI leads the pack. I am really impressed by Qt Apps, but I also am not happy with their licensing. I would like to see something new with Vulkan desktop integration. I think Microsoft really needs to reconsider what is important, and I believe them working on open source will have to be a better commitment. They should pay some of their Kubernetes…
> I see more and more great apps for Linux
Bit of an aside here, but what for example? I'm using Linux these days as the least-worst option, but I wouldn't have claimed app quality as one of its advantages. It has the best terminals (matched perhaps by iTerm on mac), and most of the important cross-platform apps are perfectly fine (VS Code, IntelliJ, Firefox, Chrome etc). Could you list some of the linux-specific apps you consider great?
Re: Microsoft Confirms UWP Is Not the Future of Windows Apps
#29I'll be really happy if UWP will die. I don't care for the visual side it offers at all, and the UX is simply terrible compared to the good old Win32. Maybe I'm missing something, but the feeling I got regarding UWP is that it is an effort to unify the UX across all platforms and devices by aiming to lowest common denominator of all platforms. It meant that simple and useful utility like calc became a visually bloate…
> Isn't it obvious that mobile apps UI/UX is poor... Isn't this the direction that MacOS is going too? I hear complaints of "iOS apps" becoming default on macOS too.
That will probably be fine for the 90% of Mac users who came from iOS anyway.
Re: Microsoft Confirms UWP Is Not the Future of Windows Apps
#30I'll be really happy if UWP will die. I don't care for the visual side it offers at all, and the UX is simply terrible compared to the good old Win32. Maybe I'm missing something, but the feeling I got regarding UWP is that it is an effort to unify the UX across all platforms and devices by aiming to lowest common denominator of all platforms. It meant that simple and useful utility like calc became a visually bloate…
Didn't they fire the guy behind Windows 8? Microsoft took mobile-first too literally and applied it to their entire OS
>Microsoft took mobile-first too literally
Server 2012.