Microsoft Confirms UWP Is Not the Future of Windows Apps
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Re: Microsoft Confirms UWP Is Not the Future of Windows Apps
#2I hope they keep chipping away at the Store. It's a nice additional stream of apps that while lacking in curation provides an easy route for novice users to get something or even just browse. They need either a higher bar for quality or much more vast curated content for users to explore. Same with UWP, I hope they don't kill it off. It's a good entry point for some- though I'm sure more adept programmers would have alot to say on that.
Re: Microsoft Confirms UWP Is Not the Future of Windows Apps
#3I think from a developer perspective this is pretty misleading because all the "new" stuff in Windows development is just repackagings of UWP subsystems to work with Win32 apps. WinUI is the UWP UI stack, MSIX is the UWP package format, etc.
So even if they aren't really pushing the UWP "brand" anymore, if you have a UWP app you are already using all of the "new" stuff.
Re: Microsoft Confirms UWP Is Not the Future of Windows Apps
#4I hope they keep chipping away at the Store. It's a nice additional stream of apps that while lacking in curation provides an easy route for novice users to get something or even just browse. They need either a higher bar for quality or much more vast curated content for users to explore. Same with UWP, I hope they don't kill it off. It's a good entry point for some- though I'm sure more adept programmers would have…
There is too much crap in the store, they need to get it out.
To distribute software the normal way you need to at least be able to register a domain name and run a web site and it seems the bottom 20% of app developers can't do that.
Re: Microsoft Confirms UWP Is Not the Future of Windows Apps
#5Is it just me, or does Microsoft create a whole new Windows API with every release? How are people supposed to build anything without a stable API? No wonder everyone has switched to Electron.
Re: Microsoft Confirms UWP Is Not the Future of Windows Apps
#6Good. UWP sucks.
Re: Microsoft Confirms UWP Is Not the Future of Windows Apps
#7Is it just me, or does Microsoft create a whole new Windows API with every release? How are people supposed to build anything without a stable API? No wonder everyone has switched to Electron.
The API is very stable. Any Win32 app from the last 24 years will still run. 16 bit apps will still run on the 32 bit version of Windows. They promote the cool new thing every so often, but all the old stuff still works and eventually gets the access to the new features.
Re: Microsoft Confirms UWP Is Not the Future of Windows Apps
#8Is it just me, or does Microsoft create a whole new Windows API with every release? How are people supposed to build anything without a stable API? No wonder everyone has switched to Electron.
This isn't as bad as it seems on Desktop. If you build to the old old api (win32), it has enough support to basically work forever. Longer if you stick around to release updates.
If you build to the new release, there's a good chance it's not going to work well on the next one though. This is part of why Windows Mobile failed. There weren't that many apps to begin with, but you needed to build differently for WP7, WP8, and WM10 if you wanted things to really work. And WM10 never got any users.
Re: Microsoft Confirms UWP Is Not the Future of Windows Apps
#9I think this was obvious just after UWP was released. It was like a separate ecosystem that got all the new goodies (eg Win2D) bit was fairly incompatible with the other ecosystems (WinUI kind of like WPF but not really, complicate AOT deployment builds that took an hour to compile, nerfed DLR, no explicit MT, a sandboxed app model, Windows store that no one wanted, etc...). Now they are saying that you can have the new goodies before you commit to the restrictions of UWP (if you ever want to), which is really how it should have been in the first place.
Now it feels like it is kind of too late, unfortunately.
Re: Microsoft Confirms UWP Is Not the Future of Windows Apps
#10Is it just me, or does Microsoft create a whole new Windows API with every release? How are people supposed to build anything without a stable API? No wonder everyone has switched to Electron.
They just can't seem to settle on a UI framework. They have like 5 at this point.
They really need to just figure out how you make a GUI app on windows.
I want to make a GUI app in the same framework the Office team uses, if its good enough for them then good enough for me, see "eating your own dog food".