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We got banned from PayPal after 12 years of business

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Re: We got banned from PayPal after 12 years of business

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I was banned from PayPal after 11 years - because my account was initially registered when I was under 18, which is a breach of ToS. They explicitly forbid me to register again. It really came out of the blue from nowhere.

Luckily for me I don't rely on PayPal so I put it in the "good riddance" category.

Re: We got banned from PayPal after 12 years of business

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post #91

Don't know if it is the reason for the ban, but Niteos main product seems to be a service for creating spam networks. https://www.easyblognetworks.com , https://niteo.co/projects

As I mentioned in the previous comments - we're not using PayPal to process our SaaS products.

No denial that you’re selling software designed to spam. Interesting.

Maybe you should focus on making your business run in the ethical clear first. You’re not getting any sympathy from me that your unethical practices got you cut off from financing.

Re: We got banned from PayPal after 12 years of business

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My question to the op is: Where were you for the few years of posts when other people wrote the same thing, yet you stuck with PayPal?

It feels like people don’t want to actively move their payments processor and no amount of blog warnings are going to change that. The one thing I will say is that the growing amount of responses of teams that have similar experiences should be worrying to PayPal.

Re: We got banned from PayPal after 12 years of business

#354

Earlier quoted context omitted.

to generalize, you shouldn't keep your money in any 3rd party longer than necessary.

Is a bank a 3rd party in this argument?

Yes. You should have more then one bank in case they lock your account for some random reason.

Re: We got banned from PayPal after 12 years of business

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PayPal spends a lot of money on lawyers to make sure that no state or country considers them a bank. The reason is so they can avoid banking regulations. If they were subject to regulations, they wouldn’t be able to freeze your account without warning, nor hold your money for 180 days. As they say internally: “we don’t make money by letting people have it back”.

> As they say internally: “we don’t make money by letting people have it back”. I'm gonna need a source for that.

Just in case you don't know I'm almost certain jedburg is the person in the profile here https://www.meetup.com/devops/events/191408942/.

Re: We got banned from PayPal after 12 years of business

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post #346

Then if you're an indie musician on Bandcamp they give you no option but to use PayPal however if you're not on Bandcamp nobody is going to buy your music directly from your website anymore and for underground acts Bandcamp is better than Spotify but the whole forced use of PayPal there meant for a decade I couldn't use Bandcamp until I got a new PayPal account after they killed the account I had had for 15 years.

> they give you no option but to use PayPal That isn't the case. You can use your credit card directly, without it going through paypal https://get.bandcamp.help/hc/en-us/articles/360007803294-Pay...

The buyer can use their credit card, but the seller must use PayPal.

https://get.bandcamp.help/hc/en-us/articles/360007902213-How...

Re: We got banned from PayPal after 12 years of business

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post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But with PayPal, that’s not the case. Your “money” in your account at PayPal is just a number in a table. The actual money, however, is in PayPal’s bank account where it is earning PayPal interest and investment opportunities.

To be fair, anything other than M0 (physical cash) is just a number in a table. Banking regulations that ensure ease of access are the only reason other "numbers in tables" are considered part of the money supply.

You probably want it to be in a table that earns you interest, not PayPal, though.

Re: We got banned from PayPal after 12 years of business

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"I’m always surprised as to why people are concerned about card details misuse. You are not responsible for card-not-present fraud (without 3D Secure). " I am not surprised. You have obviously never stood in Ethiopia or wherever and have gotten a call from your bank: " This is the fraud department, unfortunately we have to block your card but we send you a new one". Trick question: How many CC do you carry at a given…

Not sure if it would have helped in your case, but when I was going to China for 2 months, I called the bank beforehand and let them know that I'll be in China, and asked to ensure the card would work there.

Would not have helped.

When I was abroad one guy was enjoying a decent McDonalds meal in the states with a cloned card.

Re: We got banned from PayPal after 12 years of business

#359

What's the best alternative to Paypal today?

I'm having security issues with PayPal payments(customers making fake chargeback in an attempt to get things for free). Stripe seems like a better choice and I plan to switch, but PayPal is well known and trusted by buyers.

Sellers should not trust PayPal, at all.

Re: We got banned from PayPal after 12 years of business

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post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right, if someone says alright, put your money in this box. But then they take the box and close it and say no, you can't open it, Sorry. What does that sound more like? Frozen, or stolen?

Frozen, as long as they don't take the money either.

I can bet my absolute bottom dollar that the money is frozen, but they're still making interest on it.

Stolen is more appropriate here.

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