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The New Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL2) Architecture [video]

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Re: The New Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL2) Architecture [video]

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Post by tapoxi »

apotatopot wrote: post #18
scardine wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While all my servers are Linux, on the Desktop it is my last choice. Interesting enough I used to love customizing the window manager to death but I'm older now and I just want something that is consistent and works out of the box. Macs work really well out of the box but with some tweaks WSL makes Windows a quite decent development workstation. Currently I'm using Windows + WSL and I'm quite satisfied. Looks like wi…

I don't tweak anything after installing Debian/RHEL at work or at home. They're stable and flexible. IMO, the folks who spend hours customizing their desktops are usually the ones who don't know linux well and want to feel like they do.

A more positive perspective, they want to learn what they can do. I remember trying every distribution, DE, and window manager when I started with Linux. These days I stick with stock GNOME on Fedora.

Re: The New Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL2) Architecture [video]

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Post by jchw »

I was initially very excited for WSL2, but I do worry it will require Hyper-V to be enabled. I use VMWare Workstation and it’s a true pain to switch Hyper-V on and off. Also, I cant help but worry that this will somehow be a downgrade in some way... will it be just as integrated? Windows Firewall worked on WSL Pico processes for example.

Re: The New Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL2) Architecture [video]

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Post by scardine »

CoolGuySteve wrote: post #9
scardine wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While all my servers are Linux, on the Desktop it is my last choice. Interesting enough I used to love customizing the window manager to death but I'm older now and I just want something that is consistent and works out of the box. Macs work really well out of the box but with some tweaks WSL makes Windows a quite decent development workstation. Currently I'm using Windows + WSL and I'm quite satisfied. Looks like wi…

I have the same motivation as you, I just want shit that works. But Windows is the absolute last place I find that. All I get are updates that break my setup, constant inane interruptions from Cortana or the desktop or wherever, advertisement tiles in the fucking start menu, forced updates that can't be done in the background, Windows Activation disappearing after hardware upgrades, etc. I feel like I'm in the Stepfo…

Interesting, may be I have some setting that prevents Cortana from annoying me and prevents windows from placing ads on the start menu. Not that I use the start menu often, generally I just hit the search box and start typing the name of the app I want (if it is not pinned to the task bar already).

I'm using Windows 10 Pro (Insider Preview fast track) and not seeing the annoyances you are experiencing.

Re: The New Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL2) Architecture [video]

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Post by bwat49 »

scardine wrote: post #7
apotatopot wrote: post #2

Just release Office for Linux and this wouldn't be necessary at all.

While all my servers are Linux, on the Desktop it is my last choice. Interesting enough I used to love customizing the window manager to death but I'm older now and I just want something that is consistent and works out of the box. Macs work really well out of the box but with some tweaks WSL makes Windows a quite decent development workstation. Currently I'm using Windows + WSL and I'm quite satisfied. Looks like wi…

> I used to love customizing the window manager to death but I'm older now and I just want something that is consistent and works out of the box.

it's called GNOME

Re: The New Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL2) Architecture [video]

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Post by nogridbag »

mbrumlow wrote: post #13
logicchains wrote: post #10

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How's Office for Linux going to help my laptop reliably wake from hibernation?

What hardware do you use? I use Linux exclusively on all my systems, and have not had any problems at all. So I always wonder what hardware is being used that does not work... For my laptops I use Think pads and various Dell systems. The only thing I always try to make sure when buying a laptop though is it is a Intel CPU with integrated inlet GPU -- just doing that and I have never really had any problems. In any ca…

I believe Linux does not support the "modern standby" sleep state: S0 which allows PCs to behave like your smartphone.

It's probably more of a problem with the hardware manufacturers than Linux, but regardless the end result is that it only works on Windows.

For example, my Surface Book, when it's working, resumes instantly.

Re: The New Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL2) Architecture [video]

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Post by scardine »

29athrowaway wrote: post #16
scardine wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While all my servers are Linux, on the Desktop it is my last choice. Interesting enough I used to love customizing the window manager to death but I'm older now and I just want something that is consistent and works out of the box. Macs work really well out of the box but with some tweaks WSL makes Windows a quite decent development workstation. Currently I'm using Windows + WSL and I'm quite satisfied. Looks like wi…

> Customizing your window manager to death That is not required to use a Linux desktop.

My pet peeve is the default clipboard behavior, personally I hate when I select text and it overrides the previous content in the clipboard.

Re: The New Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL2) Architecture [video]

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Post by brianpgordon »

Are there any plans to support graphical guest applications running in a native Windows window, like VMWare Fusion? Their client/server VS Code demo where only the UI runs in Windows seems really bizarre to me. Why not just run X? I suppose you could pipe X over SSH but it would be nice to get built-in support without the hassle or performance penalty.

Re: The New Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL2) Architecture [video]

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Post by mixmastamyk »

isbjorn16 wrote: post #19
tssva wrote: post #4

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I assume any compatibility issues with Chromium will soon disappear given Edge's migration to being Chromium based but how well do the web versions work with Firefox?

MSFT employee here. My workstation that I use almost exclusively is Mint. I am one of those people who are, to put it politely, not keen on Google's ad and data sponge tentacles in every last item on the planet, and so I use Firefox as my primary browser. O365 has yet to show me many problems with the O365 suite. The only problem I do have is a complete and utter lack of desktop notifications. I'm late to meetings a…

I put all notifications on my mobile device, it works well. A web app should be able to send OS notifications however, e.g. slack does on my copy of Ubuntu. Believe I had to enable permission once.

Re: The New Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL2) Architecture [video]

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Post by Scarbutt »

brianpgordon wrote: post #27

Are there any plans to support graphical guest applications running in a native Windows window, like VMWare Fusion? Their client/server VS Code demo where only the UI runs in Windows seems really bizarre to me. Why not just run X? I suppose you could pipe X over SSH but it would be nice to get built-in support without the hassle or performance penalty.

Their equivalent of vmware fusion is hyperv.

Re: The New Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL2) Architecture [video]

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Post by mixmastamyk »

scardine wrote: post #26
29athrowaway wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Customizing your window manager to death That is not required to use a Linux desktop.

My pet peeve is the default clipboard behavior, personally I hate when I select text and it overrides the previous content in the clipboard.

clipboard and selection buffer are separate, though I think there is a situation that co-mingles them.
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