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We got banned from PayPal after 12 years of business

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Re: We got banned from PayPal after 12 years of business

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Post by TrustAndSafety »

aerovistae wrote: post #203
HenryBemis wrote: post #117

Literally NO ONE wrote the below: Every Friday go online and withdraw all-but-the-necessary £€$$ to your bank account (transfer wire or via card number). I do get some revenue via PayPal, and the very same day (or the next) I 'download' comes it to my bank account (connected to PayPal via card) and IMMEDIATELY is shipped to another account that has all the controls to make money (relatively) unmovable. I perceive Pay…

I find this comment’s format profoundly confusing and have no idea what the intended meaning is. The first sentence is throwing me off so much.

>> literally NO ONE wrote

> The first sentence is throwing me off so much

I didn't go to check because the mystery is more intriguing, but if the OOP's username is NO ONE, then maybe NO ONE literally did write that?

Re: We got banned from PayPal after 12 years of business

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Post by toast0 »

sincerely wrote: post #72
viraptor wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Uber charged $1500 to my debut card a few months ago. There's literally nobody you can call about it. Your bank. You dispute the charge. Uber can deal with your bank. It doesn't matter it was a debit card. It means you're missing the money immediately, but doesn't stop you from disputing.

You get banned from Uber if you do that, no?

Maybe they'll ban your card, but you probably have more. If they ban your phone number, they can't ban it for too long, in case it gets recycled.

If you are a driver, a ban seems more permanent, but it's not like they really identify riders.

Re: We got banned from PayPal after 12 years of business

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Post by wccrawford »

dkersten wrote: post #259
WA wrote: post #110

I integrated PayPal now for 12 years. No problems whatsoever so far. Just as another anecdotal data point.

Given the amount of horror stories about PayPal, "it won't happen to me" seems like an incredibly risky stance. Of course there are many, many people using PayPal without issue, but these stories show that it can happen to anyone at any time for no reason , no matter how long they've been happily using PP.

Most of the real horror stories about PayPal are about companies that are doing something that PayPal wouldn't want to be associated with, such as Spam, Porn, or filesharing. some of the stuff is already in their ToS, but quite a few of the stories came from before they had it explicitly in their ToS.

So I'm not surprised that people continue to think "It won't happen to me" if they don't think they're doing anything "wrong".

Re: We got banned from PayPal after 12 years of business

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Post by chii »

viraptor wrote: post #83
qaq wrote: post #62

I bet paypal is running some ML based service that flags accounts so the rep could not explain the reason even if the rep wanted to.

I'm not sure if that's what PayPal does, but whenever I saw fraud policies in companies, they never provided specific rules violated and for a good reason. If you know the exact rule you're breaking, you know what else to change for your scam to work. Pretty much the same reason you get "authentication failed" rather than "your password's 2nd letter didn't match".

But the problem here is that paypal doesn't tell you if you're business is "ban-able" ahead of time. They have a list, and terms of services, but even if you followed them to the letter, they can still ban you, and not provide a reason.

This isn't a good foundation for a business to depend on, so i would completely avoid having paypal as the only option.

Re: We got banned from PayPal after 12 years of business

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Post by mojomark »

chmod775 wrote: post #4

I've been preaching this since forever. Don't rely on PayPal. They're less professional than a kid selling juice next to the road. There are no grace periods with PayPal to give you time to move to another service. There is never more than a generic reason and stonewalling when they terminate you. And yes, their decision is always final. They'll happily terminate your only source of income on a friday afternoon, free…

Comment below states Niteo is a spam creator, so the block seems justified.

FWIW, PayPal has always worked for me and customer support gets the job done. Not sure what the problem is if your operation is legit.

Re: We got banned from PayPal after 12 years of business

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Post by marcosdumay »

metaprotocol wrote: post #78

Niteo produce a product to produce content farms and generate spam. PayPal has done the world a favour by banning them.

PayPal should avoid doing vigilantism if they want to keep people's money under trust.

It matters very little how despicable the company is, monetary services must not hold opinions unless explicitly told one by a local government.

Re: We got banned from PayPal after 12 years of business

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Post by ravenstine »

exabrial wrote: post #32

The lack of customer service in the Silicon Valley is a pervasive problem. * Cody Don on YouTube teaches the masses about science and regularly gets banned. His videos are rated G to PG. Despite millions of viewers and dollars of Revenue, there is nobody he can call. * Uber charged $1500 to my debut card a few months ago. There's literally nobody you can call about it. * Lose your Instagram/Twitter/Gmail? Too bad, be…

> Cody Don on YouTube teaches the masses about science and regularly gets banned.

If only he sold out to NBC, PBS, Disney, or a Viacom company, then he could do whatever he wants and never be banned. ;)

Re: We got banned from PayPal after 12 years of business

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Post by mintplant »

m-p-3 wrote: post #250
mprev wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ooof, PBNs are literal spam. They're designed to game Google by producing a deluge of low quality content with backlinks on whatever search terms you're hoping to squat on. I'm utterly sick of this kind of junk.

What's the difference between this and 1-click VPS with WordPress/etc preinstalled?

If you look at their other (past/sold) projects, it's part of a suite of software they've developed for "autoblogging", scraping, automatically reposting articles from prewritten databases, "enriching" them with random images, etc. It's very clear what industry they serve.
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