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Denver decriminalizes psychedelic mushrooms

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Re: Denver decriminalizes psychedelic mushrooms

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Post by dsfyu404ed »

yboris wrote: post #113
ketzo wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Molly’s significantly more dangerous than acid or psilocybin, no?

Ecstasy 'no more dangerous than horse riding' Taking ecstasy is no more dangerous than riding a horse, according to the head of the Government's drug advisory body. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/453787...

No more dangerous than riding a horse = not unlikely to put a novice in the hospital

Don't get me wrong. I think modern society has way too little tolerance for risk of physical harm but "less dangerous than horse riding" isn't all that safe as far as indoor activities go.

Re: Denver decriminalizes psychedelic mushrooms

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Post by xutopia »

I took psilocybin twice in my life. The first time was in my early twenties and it helped me figure out what to do with my life. The second time was following a difficult separation with the mother of my children and helped me move on.

I don't recommend it unless you are followed by a therapist and if you do decide to take some make sure you have integration time a day or two after and that someone is near you while you're on it.

Also read Michael Pollan's How To Change Your Mind prior.

Re: Denver decriminalizes psychedelic mushrooms

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Post by armitron »

xutopia wrote: post #122

I took psilocybin twice in my life. The first time was in my early twenties and it helped me figure out what to do with my life. The second time was following a difficult separation with the mother of my children and helped me move on. I don't recommend it unless you are followed by a therapist and if you do decide to take some make sure you have integration time a day or two after and that someone is near you while…

I took psilocybin (est) 100+ times. My recommendations are the opposite of yours. First, I recommend everyone who is highly self-aware and extremely curious about the nature of the mind try it, _multiple times_ . There is literally nothing else (besides other psychedelics) that can - so easily - blow apart the doors of the mind and give access to what lies beneath the surface.

I don't suggest reading anything written in a commercial / contemporary setting prior to the experience. It will "infect" you with somebody else's ideas / models of the mind. What I do recommend, is immersing oneself in the myths and archetypes of one's own culture.

Finally, it goes without saying that psilocybin is not really a party drug and works best for inner exploration (psychonautics). One should minimize outside distractions by laying down, with eyes closed and listening to white noise or minimal ambient music whilst focusing on an "inner dive".

Re: Denver decriminalizes psychedelic mushrooms

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Post by mensetmanusman »

tinix wrote: post #59
mensetmanusman wrote: post #44

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Shrooms are very different. Brain chemistry almost impossible to predict ~ you may think you have a good set and setting, and then get permanently damaged. Who knew!

Permanently damaged? Got a source that shows, empirically, you're more likely to be permanently damaged from taking psilocybin than while commuting to work, jogging, swimming, or doing any other normal life activity? Sure, I'm not going to argue with you that some people shouldn't be doing these things alone. Shit, I would even argue that someone experienced actually should probably be around to assist and guide. Sha…

? I believe the people who went through such experiences.

In my mind it is like riding a bicycle. Sometimes you get permanently damaged from circumstances you can’t control. Not sure why mentioning the risk is triggering...

Re: Denver decriminalizes psychedelic mushrooms

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Post by piffey »

armitron wrote: post #123
xutopia wrote: post #122

I took psilocybin twice in my life. The first time was in my early twenties and it helped me figure out what to do with my life. The second time was following a difficult separation with the mother of my children and helped me move on. I don't recommend it unless you are followed by a therapist and if you do decide to take some make sure you have integration time a day or two after and that someone is near you while…

I took psilocybin (est) 100+ times. My recommendations are the opposite of yours. First, I recommend everyone who is highly self-aware and extremely curious about the nature of the mind try it, _multiple times_ . There is literally nothing else (besides other psychedelics) that can - so easily - blow apart the doors of the mind and give access to what lies beneath the surface. I don't suggest reading anything written…

A lot of people use it as a party drug though. It's becoming increasingly common to microdose because it has similar effects at small dosages as MDMA -- elation, putting a shiny glimmer on the world. I'm not recommending it, but I see it increasingly often here where ecstasy used to be the norm.

I'm not sure we should ever be encouraging people to do a deep psychonautic dive. We don't know what past history of mental health issues someone may have in their family or what crucial brain development stages they may be at in their maturing psyche. I'd hate to be the reason someone dove off the deep end into mental illness because they were just at the precipice of brain development. I may not have experience, but I do know that psychedelics are not a one size fits all.

Re: Denver decriminalizes psychedelic mushrooms

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Post by willio58 »

piffey wrote: post #126
armitron wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I took psilocybin (est) 100+ times. My recommendations are the opposite of yours. First, I recommend everyone who is highly self-aware and extremely curious about the nature of the mind try it, _multiple times_ . There is literally nothing else (besides other psychedelics) that can - so easily - blow apart the doors of the mind and give access to what lies beneath the surface. I don't suggest reading anything written…

A lot of people use it as a party drug though. It's becoming increasingly common to microdose because it has similar effects at small dosages as MDMA -- elation, putting a shiny glimmer on the world. I'm not recommending it, but I see it increasingly often here where ecstasy used to be the norm. I'm not sure we should ever be encouraging people to do a deep psychonautic dive. We don't know what past history of mental…

As long as the risk is stated, I think encouraging the use of psychedelics is fine.

I don’t frown on people using them as party drugs, but I do hope they eventually do them out of those settings in a more mindful way.

I’ve seen people transform through the use of psychedelics, not because it impregnated them with new ideas but because it let them feel free to explore the wide range of ideas available to them.

Re: Denver decriminalizes psychedelic mushrooms

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Post by mises »

tropo wrote: post #69
mises wrote: post #46

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I assume this is sarcastic? I wasn't saying any thing about the EU. It's quite different from America, if for no other reason than because citizens of EU nations see themselves first and foremost as citizens of said nation, not the EU (which is understandable, as that is the case). The question here was concerning America. Do you really believe the bulk of federal overreach in America is comprised of "standardization…

Long ago, citizens of US states saw themselves first and foremost as citizens of said states, not of the US. Famously, this influenced Lee's choice to serve in the Civil War, so the change in viewpoint is more recent than then. The EU may go through a similar transition.

Maybe the EU ought to take a lesson from the fate of America, and remain a voluntary confederation of states. For reasons outlined in my above post, it may be better that way.

Re: Denver decriminalizes psychedelic mushrooms

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Post by fierro »

tinix wrote: post #54
andrewstuart wrote: post #19

The key question I have about decriminalisation of marijuana and things like mushrooms and hopefully MDMA soon, is "will it reduce the number of people who try meth/ice?" My theory is that people become addicted to meth/ice because they want to get high, but "good" drugs like marijuana and MDMA/mushrooms are not legal/available/cheap, so people buy/try meth/ice. Put another way, my theory is that legalisation of "goo…

>people become addicted to meth/ice because they want to get high s/want to get high/are unhappy and... not because they want to get high, but, because meth is addictive, by it's very nature. cannabis and psilocybin are not addictive. to further your point...

marijuana is psychologically addictive

Re: Denver decriminalizes psychedelic mushrooms

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Post by s_y_n_t_a_x »

mirimir wrote: post #42
s_y_n_t_a_x wrote: post #16

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It's kind of apples to oranges. Neither have bad direct side-effects, but they should be taken knowing what you're going into. Acid you should know that you'll need a good two days free to really enjoy yourself. The first 12 hours will be an intense mental journey. The next day or so is used to recover as you'll be mentally exhausted. If it's your first time though, you may not know how to handle it, so you'll need a…

That's great advice.

Thanks, I've been contemplating writing articles for my blog about safe tripping for various drugs. I just wasn't sure if there was interest.
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