Yep, just tried to pay a contractor....no dice.
The https site seems to be up, if your problem was just getting to the homepage.
That's his excuse and he's sticking to it.
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#12Shutting down the Visa and Mastercard probably didn't change too much, but this for sure will. Think of how much eBay is dependent on PayPal for purchases. This should be an interesting outcome! Even if people don't feel it's morally right, I'm still very impressed by the current "cyber wars" going on. Either way, I don't lose anything. I guess I'm just one of those people that likes to watch the world burn...
There isn't going to be any burning. What's going to happen is that banks and CC companies will proactively scrub their client lists for anything that looks even vaguely controversial, and hose it before it blows up in their faces. After this, the banks will be afraid of Anonymous, and they will do whatever it takes to stay off their radar... including turning down a lot of legitimate business. "Politically unconvent…
> What's going to happen is that banks and CC companies will proactively scrub their client lists for anything that looks even vaguely controversial
That's impossible as it is: too much work, AND, too much lose of income.
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#13http://www.paypal.com is down from here (Denmark). Https is responding though. Quite impressive.
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#14To be perfectly honest, the actions of the 'anonymous' are pretty disgusting and it's bullying. A company provides a useful service to the majority of the on-line world and, just because they do something to protect themselves and their identity (there's a lot of people who dislike wikileaks) then this 'collective' decide to disrupt the whole company.
Bullying was pathetic in high school and is so much worse in the 'grown-up' world, especially when it affects so many normal people.
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#15What I like most, is that all people click on the link although it says "It's unavailable". Wondering if this has an additional effect on the availability.
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#16Shutting down the Visa and Mastercard probably didn't change too much, but this for sure will. Think of how much eBay is dependent on PayPal for purchases. This should be an interesting outcome! Even if people don't feel it's morally right, I'm still very impressed by the current "cyber wars" going on. Either way, I don't lose anything. I guess I'm just one of those people that likes to watch the world burn...
There isn't going to be any burning. What's going to happen is that banks and CC companies will proactively scrub their client lists for anything that looks even vaguely controversial, and hose it before it blows up in their faces. After this, the banks will be afraid of Anonymous, and they will do whatever it takes to stay off their radar... including turning down a lot of legitimate business. "Politically unconvent…
Which means that alternative payment systems will rise to fill in the void.
And nothing of value was lost...
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#17https://www.paypal.com/ still works, all they're doing is hammering the front page, any transactions over SSL should still work fine.
I briefly logged onto their IRC channel. It is a total chaos but still they all agree to one target. They have also been hammering www.paypal.com port 443 so I expect this to do down soon too.
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#18To be perfectly honest, the actions of the 'anonymous' are pretty disgusting and it's bullying. A company provides a useful service to the majority of the on-line world and, just because they do something to protect themselves and their identity (there's a lot of people who dislike wikileaks) then this 'collective' decide to disrupt the whole company. Bullying was pathetic in high school and is so much worse in the '…
it's self-perpetuating in the same way as school bullying, too.
anyone with authority who rallies against the Anon community would likely make themselves a target also.
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#19I suspect we are going to see two major changes over the next few weeks as a direct result of the "cyber-attacks" going on recently.
1. Financial services will re-evaluate the risks of this kind of attack vs. the cost of assigning more resources to guard against it.
2. Governments will finally start taking IT security seriously.
The latter is the more interesting, because while banks are generally reasonably clued up about balancing risks and will simply adjust their current practices, elected representatives who aren't technically inclined will probably be discolouring their underwear over the fall-out if the bad guys really tried to do some damage, given that it is this easy for a few upset people to cripple the world's payment systems.
I suspect that as a reuslt, we can look forward to increasingly draconian penalties being introduced for this sort of action in most jurisdictions, the end of on-line anonymity as it has been known, and ruthless throttling/disconnection of entire ISPs/countries that don't play ball with either of the above. If you thought government reactions to copyright infringement were heavy-handed, I imagine they will look like a nun comforting a child compared to what is coming next.
The sad thing is that better security, robustness, user authentication, etc. should have been built into the Internet by default for years, but the same "Wild West" evolution that was so successful in the early days has also been a poor driver of consolidation now that the Internet isn't just a toy for the military types and the universities any more. Maybe the Powers That Be will finally start taking serious advice about IT from people who know what they're talking about and collectively give the issues the attention they deserve. (I won't hold my breath, though; this could all end in tears, with a mess of ill-informed and poorly-implemented measures that cause all kinds of additional dangers to innocent people without actually fixing the real problem.)
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#20To be perfectly honest, the actions of the 'anonymous' are pretty disgusting and it's bullying. A company provides a useful service to the majority of the on-line world and, just because they do something to protect themselves and their identity (there's a lot of people who dislike wikileaks) then this 'collective' decide to disrupt the whole company. Bullying was pathetic in high school and is so much worse in the '…
You don't think that Paypal is also a bully as well?
Closing people's accounts (not just Wikileaks) when they see fit, having no real recourse to try and get your money once that's happened etc.
Paypal have a reputation for being a bunch of thieves. I can't say I feel bad for them.
I've never been burned by them, I'm just going from the amount of people here that post a regular "Paypal froze my account" story.