Amazon S3 Path Deprecation Plan – The Rest of the Story

Post by eclipxe » Thu, May 09, 2019, 4:53 AM UTC

hbosch wrote: post #50

el_benhameen wrote: post #48

Kind of tangential, but is Bezos a programmer type? I thought he came from banking or the big 4. I’m curious if the “malloc for the internet” bit is verbatim.

I don't think Jeff is a programmer, but I think he is very smart and his success shows that he can understand and create businesses around lots of different types of concepts and ideas. I imagine in reality there is some amount of collaboration that happens before Bezos spouts off something like "create a malloc for the internet", but in any case, it's very strong for his brand of leadership that the lore states it c…

Post by nemothekid » Thu, May 09, 2019, 4:56 AM UTC

DVassallo wrote: post #55

blaisio wrote: post #44

This is interesting for a few reasons. IMHO, the original deprecation plan was reasonable. Not generous, but reasonable. Especially compared to what other cloud providers (eg. Google Cloud) have done. It did seem like a diversion from their normal practice of obsessively supporting old stuff for as long as possible, but it really wasn't too bad. Responding to feedback, publicly, and explaining what they were trying t…

How was the original plan “reasonable”? S3’s FAQ talks about durability in terms of tens of thousands of years https://aws.amazon.com/s3/faqs/ . To honor that claim, AWS has the burden to support v1 URLs until the end of the internet.

Post by mantap » Thu, May 09, 2019, 5:01 AM UTC

whoisjuan wrote: post #62

DVassallo wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How was the original plan “reasonable”? S3’s FAQ talks about durability in terms of tens of thousands of years https://aws.amazon.com/s3/faqs/ . To honor that claim, AWS has the burden to support v1 URLs until the end of the internet.

Storage durability has nothing to do with this. Changing how you access data saved in storage is a reasonable change to keep up with the evolution of networking technologies. The change here was deprecating an access pattern, not destroying data or anything remotely similar.

Post by hbosch » Thu, May 09, 2019, 5:19 AM UTC

eclipxe wrote: post #61

hbosch wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think Jeff is a programmer, but I think he is very smart and his success shows that he can understand and create businesses around lots of different types of concepts and ideas. I imagine in reality there is some amount of collaboration that happens before Bezos spouts off something like "create a malloc for the internet", but in any case, it's very strong for his brand of leadership that the lore states it c…

He's literally an EE/CS Major. He's a programmer at heart. His technical depth is key to a lot of Amazon's biggest successes.

Post by greglindahl » Thu, May 09, 2019, 5:26 AM UTC

omeid2 wrote: post #64

gumby wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just now realised that if the web required two-way links there would be no way to put them into books! Some context: Back when the www was first released the most common criticism was the lack of back links. This is such a stupid and obvious deficiency that it really wasn't worth even looking into a system that was an obvious stillbirth. It wasn't just the "experts" saying this, but so many of them did because it w…

It is a shame that OSI didn't happen though and instead we have an ad-hoc mess of layered cake without clear boundaries as demonstrated by OSI Model.