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Pinebook – Powerful, Metal and Open Source ARM 64-Bit Laptop

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Re: Pinebook – Powerful, Metal and Open Source ARM 64-Bit Laptop

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You don't. Panfrost is already capable enough to run a simple desktop like Weston :)

Looks like Lima would be needed on the Pinebook, how well does that work ?

Not sure. Why is everyone talking about the original Pinebook now? The Pro is coming.

Re: Pinebook – Powerful, Metal and Open Source ARM 64-Bit Laptop

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It's a shame they're dropping the 11", though I concede that if they want this to be feasible with the magnesium alloy body they did need to condense the product line.

The 11" is being superceded by a touchscreen tablet, with an optional keyboard.

(No "pro" bump though - the same original Allwinner internals)

Re: Pinebook – Powerful, Metal and Open Source ARM 64-Bit Laptop

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People complaining about the old Pinebook are missing the point completely. Pine was always super open about its limitations, even on the "purchase" page. From the beginning, it was always intended as a product for tinkerers, ARM enthusiasts, and OSS advocates, not for consumers. And now they've taken what they learned and applied it to create functional, Chromebook level hardware.

Even with the Pro version, why would you ever buy this thing as a typical consumer? I mean, how would you even find it in the first place? The Pinebook is not aimed at the general public, even the Pro version.

The Pro will be great as a terminal and as a machine for casual development. It's not a gaming PC, a media center, or a server.

Re: Pinebook – Powerful, Metal and Open Source ARM 64-Bit Laptop

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Linus Tech Tips put out a video this week on Floatplane about the Pinebook (not the Pro edition) and it was woefully underpowered. CPU was compared to the PS3 and GPU was compared to the original Xbox, for reference. It barely ran with the stock software (they had to install updates/new software to get it running) and was unable to play a 480p YouTube video fullscreen without noticeable frame drops. The hardware in i…

And Raspberry Pis are bad at mining Bitcoin, but no one in their right mind would use a Pi to mine Bitcoin.

For $99, I'll be more than happy if it runs Void or Alpine Linux, gcc, i3wm, vim, git, and Firefox renders websites that know not to abuse Javascript. That's all I need 80% of the time.

Re: Pinebook – Powerful, Metal and Open Source ARM 64-Bit Laptop

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It's a shame they're dropping the 11", though I concede that if they want this to be feasible with the magnesium alloy body they did need to condense the product line.

> there will be an upgrade path for owners of the 14" regular Pinebook to a 'Pro-like' Pinebook (we're exploring an upgrade path for existing 11.6" users too - stay tuned).

https://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?tid=7093

Re: Pinebook – Powerful, Metal and Open Source ARM 64-Bit Laptop

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The thing that I was missing in the last version, and most of why I didn’t buy it, was that the GPIO present on the Pine SOC boards (and Raspberry Pi’s, etc.) were not exposed in any way, shape or form on the last version. I think it would be really neat to have some flavor of internal GPIO (exposed pads on the edge of something are just fine, a low-profile connector with a fanout cable would be great for repair, too…

Preferably with some sort of overcurrent protection. It's one thing to fry an Arduino or a Raspberry Pi - it's quite another to fry a whole laptop.
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