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What happened after my 13-year-old son joined the alt-right
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Re: What happened after my 13-year-old son joined the alt-right
#72Why are Americans so obsessed with Nazis? I mean, I'm from Europe and I don't recall growing up worrying about everyone being a secret (or overt) Nazi, which, unless promptly punched in the face, would somehow take over. WWII and Nazis destroyed Europe. Are Europeans worried about Nazis? Not as far as I can tell. Yet all I see from American news is Nazis this Nazis that. Can someone explain?
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Re: What happened after my 13-year-old son joined the alt-right
#73What resonated with me is how impossible it is, as a kid, to make sense of being in the school system. The interaction with an administrator was school discipline gone awry... but it could have easily been something else. (Discipline is the most likely, there are tons of misguided zero-tolerance policies.) I'm lucky that my parents were advocates and organizers and that they knew people in the school administration.…
Heck. I'm still making nightmares about being back to school.
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What does flagged mean on HN? Not sure why my comment got down-voted so fast. It's a genuine question. If people can't agree on what Nazi means we should ban the word altogether since it has loaded political context and doesn't foster proper discussion. It appears to me that: 1) Some use Nazi to mean Nazi Party with proper historical context 2) Some use Nazi as tool to bludgeon anyone they don't like 3) Some use Nazi…
It's probably put in a way that can cause flame wars.
Unmoderated quickly devolve into toxic pool of "I don't actually care about what you're saying, I'm just going to downvote/report you". And it works! No discussion can take place just self-reinforcing feedback loop (ironically that's what the author describes in the article!).
Moderated platforms are no better because then one is at the mercy of the moderator.
What are we to do?
I like to discuss anything and everything because I can't turn off my brain and I just think about all kinds of random stuff, a lot. There's no "idle" mode.
There just doesn't seem to be any sane place left on the internet.
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#76> He would be offline for a month and would need other mods to cover for him. To ask for help, he had to out himself as a kid. I wonder to what extent the alt-right actually is a young teen movement, with adults mixed in (being the ones who show in person). Is there any at least semi-reliable data on this?
It should also be noted that the far-right does actually have a high number of paedophiles in senior positions.
Shall we see what Milo has to say on the subject?
Re: What happened after my 13-year-old son joined the alt-right
#77Why are Americans so obsessed with Nazis? I mean, I'm from Europe and I don't recall growing up worrying about everyone being a secret (or overt) Nazi, which, unless promptly punched in the face, would somehow take over. WWII and Nazis destroyed Europe. Are Europeans worried about Nazis? Not as far as I can tell. Yet all I see from American news is Nazis this Nazis that. Can someone explain?
Well didn't you see the rally in 2016? they amassed a whole 5 people from across the US. For the MSM that's an international security threat.
Re: What happened after my 13-year-old son joined the alt-right
#78> Sam’s guidance counselor pulled him out of his next class and accused him of “breaking the law.” Before long, he was in the office of a male administrator who informed him that the exchange was “illegal,” hinted that the police were coming, and delivered him into the custody of the school’s resource officer. At the administrator’s instruction, that man ushered Sam into an empty room, handed him a blank sheet of pap…
Yes! This is an anti-public school administration article masquerading as an anti-alt-right article.
Re: What happened after my 13-year-old son joined the alt-right
#79Why are Americans so obsessed with Nazis? I mean, I'm from Europe and I don't recall growing up worrying about everyone being a secret (or overt) Nazi, which, unless promptly punched in the face, would somehow take over. WWII and Nazis destroyed Europe. Are Europeans worried about Nazis? Not as far as I can tell. Yet all I see from American news is Nazis this Nazis that. Can someone explain?
I find it curious that you got downvoted. I'm European as well and I have had the same question for a while. We have far-right, nationalist parties and even more extreme fringe groups, but no threat of secret Nazis. Maybe it's because we had to deal with the consequences of the actual Nazis and they're not just comic book villains to us. Or because it's the last big war America fought in with a clear bad guy, whereas…
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Re: What happened after my 13-year-old son joined the alt-right
#80Why are Americans so obsessed with Nazis? I mean, I'm from Europe and I don't recall growing up worrying about everyone being a secret (or overt) Nazi, which, unless promptly punched in the face, would somehow take over. WWII and Nazis destroyed Europe. Are Europeans worried about Nazis? Not as far as I can tell. Yet all I see from American news is Nazis this Nazis that. Can someone explain?
What does flagged mean on HN? Not sure why my comment got down-voted so fast. It's a genuine question. If people can't agree on what Nazi means we should ban the word altogether since it has loaded political context and doesn't foster proper discussion. It appears to me that: 1) Some use Nazi to mean Nazi Party with proper historical context 2) Some use Nazi as tool to bludgeon anyone they don't like 3) Some use Nazi…
Flagged on HN means that some users thought your comment broke the site guidelines and shouldn't have been posted here. (See https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html.) After that, your comment got enough upvotes to override the flags, which is why the [flagged] marker disappeared.
I think your comment was fine, but I had to read it pretty closely to be sure. Most likely it was worded in a way that it made it seem more provocative than it actually is. Unfortunately, seeming provocative and being provocative are pretty much the same thing on the internet. The word "Nazi" itself contains a provocative charge for many readers, so in a way your comment was affected by the phenomenon it describes.