Whoa that line about the press and their symbiotic relationships is interesting if ugly.
What happened after my 13-year-old son joined the alt-right
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Re: What happened after my 13-year-old son joined the alt-right
#22This kid might grow up to be part of the 50% or so who voted for the current president. We have to put a stop to this radical behavior by any means necessary!
Did you read the article? The kid is already reformed, and the "zero tolerance" attitude you display was the cause of the disease, not the cure.
If there's one lesson here, it's that we should treat people humanely and maintain open minds.
Re: What happened after my 13-year-old son joined the alt-right
#23I got removed from a different forum the other day for posting this link along with "people worked up over Nazis vs Commies just need to get outside, meet each other, and see that we're all just folks."
Re: What happened after my 13-year-old son joined the alt-right
#24Why are Americans so obsessed with Nazis? I mean, I'm from Europe and I don't recall growing up worrying about everyone being a secret (or overt) Nazi, which, unless promptly punched in the face, would somehow take over. WWII and Nazis destroyed Europe. Are Europeans worried about Nazis? Not as far as I can tell. Yet all I see from American news is Nazis this Nazis that. Can someone explain?
I worked in Italy and my boss was very conscious of the fact that his neighbor was a Fascist. I saw VV graffiti in the streets.
I lived in Italy for many years, and one of the more dismaying aspects of the culture is how much some people still identify with actual fascists and communists. They're both terrible ideas that should be widely repudiated by both left and right.
Re: What happened after my 13-year-old son joined the alt-right
#25There are bits of this story which simply don't add up or end up feeling quite embellished. The reaction from the principle seems quite far-fetched and the ending feels like it was meant as a call back to the beginning rather than something that actually happened. Regardless though, this story is generally correct in how the alt-right appeals to younger and more vulnerable individuals. They tend to recruit through av…
For all the talk about Russian social media meddling, I'm surprised no one ever speculates about foreign meddling in media such as the chans. To what extent has chan culture been influenced by foreign agitprop?
Outsiders, maybe, but many within these kinds of boards understand the extent of the psy ops going on more than anyone speculating from outside.
Re: What happened after my 13-year-old son joined the alt-right
#26Why are Americans so obsessed with Nazis? I mean, I'm from Europe and I don't recall growing up worrying about everyone being a secret (or overt) Nazi, which, unless promptly punched in the face, would somehow take over. WWII and Nazis destroyed Europe. Are Europeans worried about Nazis? Not as far as I can tell. Yet all I see from American news is Nazis this Nazis that. Can someone explain?
What does flagged mean on HN? Not sure why my comment got down-voted so fast. It's a genuine question.
If people can't agree on what Nazi means we should ban the word altogether since it has loaded political context and doesn't foster proper discussion.
It appears to me that:
1) Some use Nazi to mean Nazi Party with proper historical context 2) Some use Nazi as tool to bludgeon anyone they don't like 3) Some use Nazi to be an umbrella term for anything related to fascism, racism, right-leaning ideology, all kinds of other stuff.
If a single word means all kinds of things to all kinds of people, it's a useless word.
Re: What happened after my 13-year-old son joined the alt-right
#27Whoa that line about the press and their symbiotic relationships is interesting if ugly.
A big, unstated theme was how memetics goes for the most radical, extreme, offensive viewpoint. The same phenomenology that causes the press to seek out Nazis to talk to, causes search engines to return only radical viewpoints. It's what people want, but it's not good for us.
Re: What happened after my 13-year-old son joined the alt-right
#28Why are Americans so obsessed with Nazis? I mean, I'm from Europe and I don't recall growing up worrying about everyone being a secret (or overt) Nazi, which, unless promptly punched in the face, would somehow take over. WWII and Nazis destroyed Europe. Are Europeans worried about Nazis? Not as far as I can tell. Yet all I see from American news is Nazis this Nazis that. Can someone explain?
I don't know if obsession is the right word. However there is strong reaction partly due to large Jewish population in the u.s. and there is no stronger expression of anti semitism than Nazi.
Another thing. This may not be a popular opinion but based on my personal observation, ordinary Americans don't "obsess" over Nazi to the same degree as the media.
Re: What happened after my 13-year-old son joined the alt-right
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
I worked in Italy and my boss was very conscious of the fact that his neighbor was a Fascist. I saw VV graffiti in the streets.
I lived in Italy for many years, and one of the more dismaying aspects of the culture is how much some people still identify with actual fascists and communists. They're both terrible ideas that should be widely repudiated by both left and right.
The Brigate Rossa was, like the Baader Meinhof Gang, just evil. But as I recall, the Communists (PCI) by the 90s were just another left wing party, democratic socialist. I think they even changed their name.
Re: What happened after my 13-year-old son joined the alt-right
#30I got removed from a different forum the other day for posting this link along with "people worked up over Nazis vs Commies just need to get outside, meet each other, and see that we're all just folks."
Not my takeaway at all...if the teen in the article didnt have an unusually high amount of critical thinking, meeting in person would have not have changed much.