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Is Conference Room Air Making Us Dumber?

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> "Don't be shy, no time for false modesty, it may cost a life." Or it may cost the rescuer quite a bit when a woman regains consciousness half-naked with a man on top of her.

The man has a pretty good explanation in that case, iff there was a good reason to administer CPR. So what would it cost the rescuer, exactly? Unless you start undressing every unconscious woman you encounter, even if they seem to have no other problems...

People have been sued for injuries caused while performing CPR, so I could certainly imagine someone being sued for undressing a person (without their consent, obviously) to perform CPR.

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I picked up a CO2 monitor a while ago myself, and the biggest surprise was having it on in the morning in our bedroom with the doors closed. It was easily over 1000ppm IIRC. Ever since then I've made sure to set my AC system to run the "house fan" for 15 minutes or so every hour at night just to circulate the air in the house, and while the numbers went down significantly, anecdotally I swear that I wake up easier in…

I wonder what the number is for people who wear respirators for dust/fumes. There's the paper masks people are most familiar with and the charcoal canisters for working with chemicals. Since it's sealed off would it be even higher than a motorcycle helmet?

There’s probably all kinds of confounding factors here, but on high pollution days (code purple air quality) when I’m bicycling I need to take my N95 mask off every few minutes for “fresh air.”

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Generally, use recirc only briefly when driving through heavy exhaust, smoke, dust, chemicals, smells. Return to fresh air once you've cleared that. Some sources suggest recirc for heavy traffic -- I'd prefer a good filtration system. And for rapidly heating or cooling a car, recirc can help. My preference is to open windows & sunroof (where present) to flush out hot air first, in hot weather. In cold weather, the he…

Fresh just doesn't work well enough compared to recirculated for me. If the car isn't getting cold enough, recirculation being off is always the culprit. I've questioned why fresh is even there (seems unlikely co2 would be the reason) - it's always going to be less efficient and you can open a window if you want fresh air. Anecdotally I feel fine driving for 2 hours straight in recirculated air with closed windows.

Insufficient cooling capacity is likely an AC issue. Might care to have that serviced.

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A typical person exhales just over 1kg of CO2 daily. You'd need emough plants to fix about the same amount of CO2 from the air, under indoor, shaded conditions . https://www.reference.com/science/much-co2-human-exhale-3f8c... The fastest rate of carbon fixation by any plants are photosynthetic algae eds, which fix u to 4.4 kg of carbon per square meter per year, or 16.3kg CO2/(m^2 * yr). http://carbon.ycombinator.com…

Wow - imagine the price of that space in an expensive urban center apartment like NYC

This is a chief reason why urban agriculture is at best of limited viability.

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How many plants are needed to counter this?

A typical person exhales just over 1kg of CO2 daily. You'd need emough plants to fix about the same amount of CO2 from the air, under indoor, shaded conditions . https://www.reference.com/science/much-co2-human-exhale-3f8c... The fastest rate of carbon fixation by any plants are photosynthetic algae eds, which fix u to 4.4 kg of carbon per square meter per year, or 16.3kg CO2/(m^2 * yr). http://carbon.ycombinator.com…

The source you're citing talks about 4.4 kg estimated per m^2 for algae in the open ocean, and notes that the maximum known rate is 9.16, so around 9 * (44/12) = 33 kg per m^2/yr converting C to CO^2, or around 11 square meters.

In terms of CO^2 sequestration it doesn't seem implausible to fit a farm of that area in something the size of an apartment..

Of course the energy/water use would be insane, hopefully you could funnel sunlight in, or just open the window. But as a thought experiment that ignores the economics of it think more space station than apartment.

Critically, you need on the order of N m^2 of sunlit area on your culture, not N m^2 of floor space. If you image search "phytoplankton culture" you can see that people grow these in bottles or thin plastic bags under artificial lighting, maximizing the surface area.

You can easily fit 11 m^2 in one square meter like that under standard 250 cm ceiling height. Just have a stack every 20 cm.

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Thanks. I really hope hrv systems become standard. My brother has one in his house and it seems to help keep down co2. Do heat pumps ventilate? I have one in my new apartment and co2 seemed higher when it was off. But I was told they are not hrv systems. Maybe the blowing fan just caused more air circulation.

Home heat pumps generally do not have an outside air connection. They assume that your house is drafty enough already.

At least here in BC, I believe it is code to include a fresh air vent with any central HVAC. Our house has one (built in 1992). Of course, if the house is tightly sealed and you don't have an exhaust fan running, it won't suck in much outside air.

Since the climate is moderate where we live, what's been suggested to me is to just run the recirculate fan often/always, and to use bathroom exhaust fans to control fresh air turnover. (As built our bathroom fans are hooked up to a central humidity sensor, and will turn on when house humidity reaches a set level (as well as being able to turn them on in the bathrooms). I'm actually curious whether something exists, or I could rig something up, to turn them on based on CO2 levels as well.

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too

Oh god, it's already happening.

Plus the comment 4 levels up had "C02" rather than "CO2".

I searched for why people do this 1337-substitution [1], and apparently the justification's that "C02" can be quicker to type on some mobile keyboards since "0" is a single press while "O" requires hitting Shift too.

But in chemistry, we'd often write chemical formulae in linear format. For example, "H2O" is water while "C6H12O6" refers to some simple sugars. The basic rule is that digits after any letters are in a subscript position, while digits before any letters are a scalar multiplicand.

So, when I see "C02", I immediately parse it to "{C}_{02}" rather than "{C0}_{2}". This reduces to "{C}_{2}", which obviously doesn't make sense, so then I have to figure out what's going on. Obviously it's not too tough to figure out from context that "CO2" was meant, but since I have to infer that from context rather than from direct parsing, it comes off as an obnoxious typo. For example, if someone wrote "C2O", I could figure out what they meant from context too, but it's still annoying to have to be like, "What?".

Then I don't even know why it exists. I mean, who talks about CO2 so much more than other chemical species to memorize a 1337-alteration that saves them having to hit a Shift key? It seems like a rather niche micro-optimization that certainly can't be worthwhile to too many typists, even if we ignore the obnoxiousness it imposes on readers.

Which, tl;dr, my point's just that "C02" might be a cute 1337 substitution if you don't usually read a lot of chemical formulae, but if you do, it invokes a parsing error that you either have to consciously resolve or else memorize a new slang term to avoid.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leet

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Fresh just doesn't work well enough compared to recirculated for me. If the car isn't getting cold enough, recirculation being off is always the culprit. I've questioned why fresh is even there (seems unlikely co2 would be the reason) - it's always going to be less efficient and you can open a window if you want fresh air. Anecdotally I feel fine driving for 2 hours straight in recirculated air with closed windows.

Insufficient cooling capacity is likely an AC issue. Might care to have that serviced.

I will if it becomes more of a problem. Also considering putting some kind of transparent barrier between the front and back.

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What if all of humanity’s bad decisions are caused by this? Imagine if we started holding board meetings, etc outdoors and we fixed all our problems. Maybe an idea for a book?

Also, it's a great way to make sure meetings don't go on too long, hold them in the rain :)

sounds like a bright future for awning installation startups
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