A Fertility Doctor Using His Own Sperm: Ethical and legal considerations

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Post by objections » Wed, May 08, 2019, 8:35 PM UTC

A Fertility Doctor Using His Own Sperm: Ethical and legal considerations
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Post by [deleted] » Wed, May 08, 2019, 8:36 PM UTC

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Post by howard941 » Wed, May 08, 2019, 9:07 PM UTC

Clear common law battery against the mother. It should be actionable malpractice where brought by children born of this malfeasance because of the incest risks, but most (all?) states frown upon liability for negligent childbirth.

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Post by neves » Wed, May 08, 2019, 9:56 PM UTC

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Post by anbop » Wed, May 08, 2019, 10:04 PM UTC

It's impregnating a woman without her consent. It's a sex crime and should be 10+ years in jail.

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, May 08, 2019, 10:07 PM UTC

anbop wrote: post #5

It's impregnating a woman without her consent. It's a sex crime and should be 10+ years in jail.

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Post by aidenn0 » Wed, May 08, 2019, 10:10 PM UTC

anbop wrote: post #5

It's impregnating a woman without her consent. It's a sex crime and should be 10+ years in jail.

How much consent is needed though? IIRC Cline said in most cases that the sperm was from a medical intern. Given that he was not a medical intern, this is a lie which arguably negates consent.

Other possibilities get more murky; given that frozen sperm was not yet a solved problem, it's clear that the donor would be nearby, so what if Cline had instead said that the sperm was "From someone who works in this office" that would be factually true, if misleading. What if he didn't claim any particular source for the sperm at all?

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, May 08, 2019, 10:16 PM UTC

aidenn0 wrote: post #7

anbop wrote: post #5

It's impregnating a woman without her consent. It's a sex crime and should be 10+ years in jail.

How much consent is needed though? IIRC Cline said in most cases that the sperm was from a medical intern. Given that he was not a medical intern, this is a lie which arguably negates consent. Other possibilities get more murky; given that frozen sperm was not yet a solved problem, it's clear that the donor would be nearby, so what if Cline had instead said that the sperm was "From someone who works in this office" t…

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Post by lurquer » Wed, May 08, 2019, 10:26 PM UTC

It's odd that the article, which briefly addressed a few ethical issues, did not address the ethical issues regarding the underlying cause of the problem; namely, women using sperm banks.

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Post by Mirioron » Wed, May 08, 2019, 10:47 PM UTC

anbop wrote: post #5

It's impregnating a woman without her consent. It's a sex crime and should be 10+ years in jail.

I don't think there's a crime called "impregnating a woman without consent". Not only that, he also had consent to impregnate her. The question is about where the sperm came from, but I think it's rather unclear that this would be any kind of legal violation.