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Re: Bird One Scooter – Pre-Order

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Post by rsuelzer »

tyopiuy wrote: post #10

Evidence their business model isn’t working out. Their scooters (along with all the other companies) have all but disappeared from my area, where they once littered the sidewalk. Once you fall once or twice on these scooters, it’s hard to ride them again. Especially when it’s the scooter that’s broken, as is often the case. It’s a shrinking market base, consequently. They (Uber-Jump, Lime) should have given incentive…

I hope they fail. The sidewalks in Long Beach are a mess with these scooters. I see kids who are clearly not old enough to drive riding these things around, sometimes three on a scooter. Meanwhile the bike share program bikes now sit unused on the racks. This isn't replacing cars in my area, it is replacing exercise. The beach path is filled with these things, creating a real hazard since the exercise path is now a motorway.

Re: Bird One Scooter – Pre-Order

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Post by droussel »

ravenstine wrote: post #22
DerpyBaby123 wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why should they? What sort of emissions do electric vehicles have? I suspect you'll say that generating electricity causes emissions, which is only true in some cases

Because most electricity still comes from natural gas and coal. Nuclear energy still produces nuclear waste which has to go somewhere. Unless someone is relying purely on wind or solar, which is rare, they're still creating pollution by-proxy when they're charging their electric vehicle. You can't call it "zero emissions" when the emissions are just out of sight and out of mind.

I live in Quebec which is 100% hydro, thus clean.

Re: Bird One Scooter – Pre-Order

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Post by microdrum »

tyopiuy wrote: post #10

Evidence their business model isn’t working out. Their scooters (along with all the other companies) have all but disappeared from my area, where they once littered the sidewalk. Once you fall once or twice on these scooters, it’s hard to ride them again. Especially when it’s the scooter that’s broken, as is often the case. It’s a shrinking market base, consequently. They (Uber-Jump, Lime) should have given incentive…

Seems to me their business model was faultyfrom the very beginning. For example, they initially claimed 1 week scooter payback to early investors. That was obviously an exaggeration. They also claimed to have market scale economics similar to Uber, but this was also false because the scooters were not being ridden from one micromarket to another. They were just staying in the same area.

There is a reason The Carlyle Group never rolled up all the bike rental shops into a big nationwide conglomerate!!

Re: Bird One Scooter – Pre-Order

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Post by benatkin »

diegorbaquero wrote: post #24

$1299??? Apart from the GPS and "Free Rides Package" and "Bird Service Center", what's the value added? I could just get a Segway Ninebot ES4 for less than $800?

Or a Boosted Board.

I see people riding by on Boosted Boards and sometimes think that I want one. I never think that when I see someone on a scooter. I like to ride the scooter now and then, but I don't want to own one, nor do I want to carry one into my home or office.

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Post by EpicEng »

adrianmonk wrote: post #28
primo44 wrote: post #5

*its "it's" = "it is"

Here's how I keep this straight mentally. The rule is, in English, you can make a noun possessive by adding "'s" to the end. Let me emphasize one part: that's the rule to make A NOUN possessive. "It" is a pronoun, not a noun! The rule doesn't apply any more than it applies to a verb or an adjective. Hence you don't have stuff like "you's", "he's", "she's", "we's", or "I's", and you also don't have "it's".

Pretty sure we do actually have he's and she's. "He's being an idiot", or "she's wrong about that."

Re: Bird One Scooter – Pre-Order

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Post by EpicEng »

DerpyBaby123 wrote: post #14
allworknoplay wrote: post #7

> "give your commute a higher purpose with zero carbon emissions." Can people please stop claiming electric vehicles are zero emissions?

Why should they? What sort of emissions do electric vehicles have? I suspect you'll say that generating electricity causes emissions, which is only true in some cases

>I suspect you'll say that generating electricity causes emissions, which is only true in some cases

I think you meant "the majority of cases".

Re: Bird One Scooter – Pre-Order

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Post by village-idiot »

ecnahc515 wrote: post #16
DerpyBaby123 wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why should they? What sort of emissions do electric vehicles have? I suspect you'll say that generating electricity causes emissions, which is only true in some cases

One of the bigger arguments is also in the production itself can be not very eco-friendly, eg: creating the batteries themselves.

This is true when you compare similar sized vehicles. If an electric scooter is replacing a car, not an unreasonable assumption in the US, then the emissions savings will be massive.

Re: Bird One Scooter – Pre-Order

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Post by EpicEng »

droussel wrote: post #32
ravenstine wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because most electricity still comes from natural gas and coal. Nuclear energy still produces nuclear waste which has to go somewhere. Unless someone is relying purely on wind or solar, which is rare, they're still creating pollution by-proxy when they're charging their electric vehicle. You can't call it "zero emissions" when the emissions are just out of sight and out of mind.

I live in Quebec which is 100% hydro, thus clean.

If only the entire world's population lived in Quebec.
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