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'One Ring' Phone Scam

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Re: 'One Ring' Phone Scam

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Post by Piskvorrr »

goguy wrote: post #336
SomeHacker44 wrote: post #198

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Just not willing to do this. I never want to miss a call from someone talking about an emergency with a family member, the FAA calling about an unclosed flight plan, a recruiter (if job hunting), a delivery person, etc. I answer virtually all unknown numbers except the ones T-Mobile puts in as “Scam Likely.” What I do not understand is, given that the phone is a computer, why there is not an on-phone IVR which can so…

How many calls are you actually getting? Even if it's one a day, who h seems extremely high, is it really that much effort to lose the 5 seconds it takes to answer and hang up straight away?

Depends. At some point, I was getting one about every two hours. Got a call rating/blocking app then, and hey presto, they all get blocked automagically. Machine v. machine: fatality! Apparently word gets around, as even the attempted calls decreased after about a month.

(And yes, I would probably be juggling significant state at the usual calling times; pushing and popping all that is far more than 5 seconds, even if that were completely lossless)

Re: 'One Ring' Phone Scam

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Post by mattkrause »

probably_wrong wrote: post #92
mattkrause wrote: post #67

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How do you get--and keep--a job? Have friends? Make medical appointments? Order pizza?

I am not the person you are replying to, but I would like to point out that my job never calls me (and if they expected me to be reachable they would give me a work phone), I keep in touch with my friends via my computer, and I order pizza online. Medical appointments are still done over the phone, though, but not always. I wouldn't go as far as to have no phone number whatsoever, but living without one doesn't seem…

My current job doesn’t call me very often, but recruiters and HR folks love the phone. Likewise, small businesses are way easier to deal with on the phone vs. online (larger ones are a toss-up).

I guess I’m convinced that it could be done, but I’m less convinced that it makes sense, and baffled as to why you’d pay for a phone and then go to such lengths to avoid using it.

Re: 'One Ring' Phone Scam

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Post by pndy »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #116
martin_a wrote: post #112

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Where in Europe are you? I'm in Germany and I'd say I get one call a month from somebody who wants to do a survey or something like that. And I also might get one spam SMS per month which I report to the "Bundesnetzagentur", which will then take care of that as this is prohibited in Germany.

Poland. I regularly get a survey call and "congratulations, you won a vacuum cleaner/spa/whatever" call roughly once a month. From time to time, I get some company I'm technically in business with call me (through an outsourced call centre), trying to upsell something useless. I used to get a lot more of calls like these a couple years ago, but I vaguely recall something in the legislation having changed since then,…

> In Poland AFAIK it's illegal to spam individuals

Still happens despite of regulations and it wouldn't be that bad if you just could get the info from person calling you, who got your number and demand removal from database but as you probably know, they love to hang up the second they hear this question. I've heard that the newest trick is to give the victim the premium service number saying "that's how you can get your phone number removed".

Personally, I'm still dealing with periods during year when all 3 phones in my house from Orange are receiving calls from same spam number - two mobile contracts and one landline. I explicitly demanded which was check-marked on my subscriber's account that I do not wish receiving spam calls even if that means my bill is cut by 5 PLN and I'm missing chance to win something (sic!); so it seems even service provider doesn't bother with legislation here.

> they note this down, and call again the next month.

It's probably due to rotation of people - one shift comes in and then next one and nobody cares what called person has to say. It's still a potential "client" for them and the mindset here is "maybe after n-th time they'll gave up and purchase our stuff", I believe

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Post by lowercased »

alias_neo wrote: post #345
lowercased wrote: post #330

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Had an accountant that adopted some new platform and communication technique. Anytime I'd email, he would record a video and send back a link to a video. The videos weren't (easily) downloadable, and would expire pretty quickly. So... I never had anything useful to trace through history in. I switched accountants. New one is fine with answering basic questions about stuff via email. He will call sometimes, but it's n…

Mind boggling. Clearly he was trying to stand out, with his video responses, but that's just irritating, you could click a short email and read it in seconds on your phone almost anywhere, or, you have to wait until a time suitable to watch with audio.

it seemed to be part of some larger 'communication and marketing' package he was subscribed to. I was getting monthly email updates, etc - ghostwritten by someone else. It wasn't bad, but video responses to everything was annoying. It felt like he was intentionally trying to hide something.

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Post by brownbat »

userbinator wrote: post #179
anonu wrote: post #157

From the website: How to avoid this scam: Don't answer or return any calls from numbers you don't recognize. If the FCC is recommending we don't pick up our phones, isn't something really wrong with the system?

That's weird. I can understand not returning, since then you're the one originating and thus getting charged for the call, but for answering? Is there any landline service that charges for non-collect incoming calls?

Not unique to this scam, but scammers often log whether or not someone answered and put you on a list for additional attention.

It's like how responding to spammers with "No, thank you!" will actually get you more spam.

Re: 'One Ring' Phone Scam

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Post by Aloha »

icedchai wrote: post #340
Aloha wrote: post #10

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It's not even trusted callers, its blocking CID spoofing for numbers in their own owned pools, that are originating calls from elsewhere - this should be blocked, as I can think of very few cases where a cellular provider would find this valid.

This may be one of those things that is easier said than done. Number portability may make that more complicated than it seems. Any telco experts around?

Even with LNP, they know what numbers they have provisioned, and which ones have been ported out

Re: 'One Ring' Phone Scam

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Post by ZeikJT »

aeternus wrote: post #341
grawprog wrote: post #238

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The problem with this for me is my voicemail is now so full of spam messages from numbers I don't answer or block that I can't ever get any useful messages if there are any. A lot of the time my inbox remains full and I can't actually receive new voicemails. It's just gotten to the point where the new voicemail icon has become a permanent fixture on my notification bar I totally ignore.

The concept of a 'full' voicemail is also backwards. It should be implemented as a circular buffer, if full, the oldest gets replaced.

I wholly disagree. The system as it works today is miles better than a circular buffer. People trying to leave new voicemails are informed that there is no more room and thus they know that if it is important they should try calling back later.

If it just deleted old entries then it's possible someone left an important message and assume you'll hear it but then it just gets silently deleted.

Imagine if PC storage devices worked this way, it'd be chaos.

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