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Re: 'One Ring' Phone Scam

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Post by INTPenis »

nightcracker wrote: post #90

I'm from europe (the Netherlands). Everytime I see these american robocall threads it blows my mind. What about your system is so bad that allows this to go on? It's not a problem here at all.

It's been a problem for me in Sweden the last couple of years. I've had the same company phone number since 2011 but the last 2 years I've seen strange calls from international numbers.

They seem spoofed because you can see them increment the numbers and try again. Also they come from various countries both in and out of europe.

They always ring 2-3 times then hang up.

I've blocked dozens of them by now, they just come up with new numbers.

I don't understand what the point is because nothing happens if you call back so there's nothing to keep you on the line.

Also nothing happens if you respond.

I understand that these are all things I shouldn't do but a) at one point the numbers resembled those of RedHat in the UK and b) I was curious.

Re: 'One Ring' Phone Scam

#132

Post by inflatableDodo »

dingaling wrote: post #126
inflatableDodo wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This question reminds me of Kraftwerk's method of using a phone. I'd love a mobile phone that did this; >When the German electronic band Kraftwerk were in the studio, they refused to be disturbed. Working for hours on end, patiently perfecting their sonic arrangements, required zero interruptions. So much so that they even took the ringer out of the only telephone in the studio. So what happened when someone wanted t…

Intriguing, but in order to lift the phone at the precise time they'd need to have some form of alarm or notification. At which point, their concentration would be interrupted. So really I don't see the point.

You mean that musicians would have to be keeping track of time? How very distracting for them.

Re: 'One Ring' Phone Scam

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Post by martin_a »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #116
martin_a wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where in Europe are you? I'm in Germany and I'd say I get one call a month from somebody who wants to do a survey or something like that. And I also might get one spam SMS per month which I report to the "Bundesnetzagentur", which will then take care of that as this is prohibited in Germany.

Poland. I regularly get a survey call and "congratulations, you won a vacuum cleaner/spa/whatever" call roughly once a month. From time to time, I get some company I'm technically in business with call me (through an outsourced call centre), trying to upsell something useless. I used to get a lot more of calls like these a couple years ago, but I vaguely recall something in the legislation having changed since then,…

This seems to be somewhat similar in Germany. I got lots of calls from companies trying to sell me SEO optimization or whatever when I was in charge (and listed on the website) for the online business of my former employee. But I received little to none mails from those companies because cold-mailing is prohibited by German laws against unfair competition. Seems to be somewhat broken that you may telephone-spam somebody but are not allowed to do so via mail.

Re: 'One Ring' Phone Scam

#134

Post by martin_a »

taejo wrote: post #121
martin_a wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where in Europe are you? I'm in Germany and I'd say I get one call a month from somebody who wants to do a survey or something like that. And I also might get one spam SMS per month which I report to the "Bundesnetzagentur", which will then take care of that as this is prohibited in Germany.

BTW, if I receive spam SMSes on my German number that are sent from the UK, can I report those to the Bundesnetzagentur, or do I need to find the relevant UK authority?

I would just give it a try. Probably the BNetzA knows best who to contact in case they can't get hold of that number.

Re: 'One Ring' Phone Scam

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Post by swozey »

Negitivefrags wrote: post #129
shereadsthenews wrote: post #5

I can’t imagine why anyone ever answers the phone. I get at least ten robocalls every weekday. I don’t ever look at my voicemail and I haven’t answered a call in ages. Edit: I know I’m not alone because CNN just released a poll with no responses from people under the age of fifty, because they couldn’t reach enough of them by phone.

I don't understand why the phone companies don't do more prevent this kind of thing in the USA. In New Zealand, I have had periods where spam phone calls have been pretty bad for me. 2 or 3 a day for a week or so, and that was annoying. But they always seem to stop. The last spam call I got was long enough ago that it doesn't show up in my iphones call history. Certainly several months ago. Can't the phone companies…

A bunch of carriers like tmobile and att can filter spam at their network. I was getting 5+ a day so I'm testing tmobiles name ID. But it's an extra $4/month when it should be included.

Most people just use hiya and all of the apps that community source the blocking. Tbh my experience is probably better with those.

Re: 'One Ring' Phone Scam

#136

Post by ptaipale »

inflatableDodo wrote: post #132
dingaling wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Intriguing, but in order to lift the phone at the precise time they'd need to have some form of alarm or notification. At which point, their concentration would be interrupted. So really I don't see the point.

You mean that musicians would have to be keeping track of time? How very distracting for them.

For me, when playing/recording, it would really distract me (more than e.g. having a phone in silent mode so that when flow mode ends, I notice I'm hungry and need to wake up to the outside world, I can see who has tried to call).

The Kraftwerk description sounds a bit eccentric to me. Their business model is about being eccentric, so no surprise there.

Re: 'One Ring' Phone Scam

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Post by inflatableDodo »

ptaipale wrote: post #136
inflatableDodo wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You mean that musicians would have to be keeping track of time? How very distracting for them.

For me, when playing/recording, it would really distract me (more than e.g. having a phone in silent mode so that when flow mode ends, I notice I'm hungry and need to wake up to the outside world, I can see who has tried to call). The Kraftwerk description sounds a bit eccentric to me. Their business model is about being eccentric, so no surprise there.

>For me, when playing/recording, it would really distract me

I think this might be easier if you are working as a group and have a big clock on the wall. I am a rubbish instrumentalist, but do hang around with a hell of a lot of musicians, and 'how long was that' does seem to be one of the most commonly asked questions of each other when they are in a studio. Also, if paying for a studio, they generally become very good at estimating the current time.

Re: 'One Ring' Phone Scam

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Post by goodcanadian »

shereadsthenews wrote: post #5

I can’t imagine why anyone ever answers the phone. I get at least ten robocalls every weekday. I don’t ever look at my voicemail and I haven’t answered a call in ages. Edit: I know I’m not alone because CNN just released a poll with no responses from people under the age of fifty, because they couldn’t reach enough of them by phone.

Put your number on the National do not call registry. It doesn't stop all calls, but in my experience, it greatly reduces them.

Re: 'One Ring' Phone Scam

#139

Post by distant_hat »

maccard wrote: post #109
gpm wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I answer the phone because people who I have to be responsive to call it. I'm currently getting a visa, if someone involved in the decision making process calls my number I better answer it. I was interviewing for a job not that long ago, when people get back to me by the phone I better answer it. When my dentist or doctor calls to schedule an appointment I need to answer it. If a family member needs to get my attent…

I do t disagree with you that answerinf your phone can be necessary, but most of your examples are cases where you are expecting a call - except your doctor/dentist. Why are they calling you and not you calling them to make appointments? Semo-related but it's infuriating how many companies refuse to contact you by email. I'm currently remortgaging a flat, and I've told the broker repeatedly to contact me by email, an…

A lot of the times when people make it a point to call you it is to avoid leaving an email trail. In litigious environments it serves a purpose. You may argue that calls may be recorded as well but it is far less likely and much harder to search through them the way you can do through email.

Re: 'One Ring' Phone Scam

#140

Post by raverbashing »

swozey wrote: post #135
Negitivefrags wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand why the phone companies don't do more prevent this kind of thing in the USA. In New Zealand, I have had periods where spam phone calls have been pretty bad for me. 2 or 3 a day for a week or so, and that was annoying. But they always seem to stop. The last spam call I got was long enough ago that it doesn't show up in my iphones call history. Certainly several months ago. Can't the phone companies…

A bunch of carriers like tmobile and att can filter spam at their network. I was getting 5+ a day so I'm testing tmobiles name ID. But it's an extra $4/month when it should be included. Most people just use hiya and all of the apps that community source the blocking. Tbh my experience is probably better with those.

It's part of being completely incompetent at their job then charging people for the "convenience"

It's the same BS with credit scores/credit freeze

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