Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Firefox 66.0.4 is out, fixes disabled add-ons

ftp.mozilla.org

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

271–280 of 392 posts

Re: Firefox 66.0.4 is out, fixes disabled add-ons

#271

Post by ntp85 »

f4stjack wrote: post #261

Good move, congrats on surviving the second armag-add-on finally BUT I won't be moving from chromium until Firefox (or Mozilla) explains: - why am I opted-in to a Studies program in Firefox's default state? (With no explicit information about what it is) - what does app.normandy.enabled switch do and why is its default value is True and doesn't change to false when I explicitly state I don't want to be in the Studies…

This might be a stupid question, but have you asked them through their support or social media channels yet?

Re: Firefox 66.0.4 is out, fixes disabled add-ons

#272

Post by lucb1e »

Karunamon wrote: post #202
floatingatoll wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Note that these statistics would, presumably, exclude all users who disable telemetry in Firefox. Since many of those outraged at the interruption to addons seem to overlap frequently with those who object to and disable telemetry and studies on principle, their departure over this incident could well have no impact whatsoever on the metrics you linked above. It must be a nightmare for the Firefox team to have a mino…

Who's fault is that, at the end of the day? Mozilla didn't have to structure their addon system in such a way that their (in)actions could disable the addons of every Firefox user on the planet . Mozilla did not have to abuse the studies mechanism (also on by default) to ship a workaround. Mozilla did not have to disable the option that would let me work around this problem by myself (which is going to cause me no en…

If Mozilla has you that angry, I can't imagine what you must go through every time you interact with any other company. Your points are not completely invalid (most of them anyway) but you might want to rethink where you spend your time ranting in some fury, encouraging people to move away from the only open browser with any sort of market share in favor of our new monopolist. Firefox is not beyond criticism but I think they get plenty of it already for all the good they do compared to everyone else, and a mad fury like this might be better spent contributing to the project.

Re: Firefox 66.0.4 is out, fixes disabled add-ons

#273

Post by f4stjack »

ntp85 wrote: post #271
f4stjack wrote: post #261

Good move, congrats on surviving the second armag-add-on finally BUT I won't be moving from chromium until Firefox (or Mozilla) explains: - why am I opted-in to a Studies program in Firefox's default state? (With no explicit information about what it is) - what does app.normandy.enabled switch do and why is its default value is True and doesn't change to false when I explicitly state I don't want to be in the Studies…

This might be a stupid question, but have you asked them through their support or social media channels yet?

I did from twitter, no answer yet. And I think this is an answer owed to all of the users - not just me.

Re: Firefox 66.0.4 is out, fixes disabled add-ons

#274

Post by lucb1e »

yabatopia wrote: post #264
sciurus wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're published now.

Right now, the Firefox for Android version is still not available in the Google Play Store.

Surprising no one. The real question is whether the apk is available somewhere so people don't have to wait for our favorite walled garden to mercifully pass the update.

Re: Firefox 66.0.4 is out, fixes disabled add-ons

#275

Post by icebraining »

beezle wrote: post #201
roblabla wrote: post #178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why on earth are you running such a massively outdated browser? You should at least switch to pale moon, basilisk, or another maintained browser. God knows how many vulnerabilities in the wild there are in 56.

I don't think I or anyone else need to justify why they still use the 56 ESR instead of pale moon nor does that have anything to do with the question of whether there will be a fix for this version from Mozilla. Clearly a few feathers have been ruffled by even broaching the fact that many people still use the 56 version because crtical extensions still have no equivalent under quantum. Snark is not allowed even when…

There is no 56 ESR; it jumped from 52 to 60.

Re: Firefox 66.0.4 is out, fixes disabled add-ons

#276

Post by lucb1e »

millstone wrote: post #270
roblabla wrote: post #178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why on earth are you running such a massively outdated browser? You should at least switch to pale moon, basilisk, or another maintained browser. God knows how many vulnerabilities in the wild there are in 56.

Is security the new motor powering the upgrade treadmill? God knows how many vulnerabilities there are in the massively outdated Windows 7, why don't you upgrade to Windows 10...

Windows 7 gets security updates. But I do agree with your general point, fear of vulns pushing you to broken versions feels wrong. I've been on 55 myself (since 56 already broke some stuff) until a month ago, upgraded for security reasons, giving up convenient tab switching with the mouse, mouse gestures in view-source tabs, stable vertical tabs (tree style tabs is not super stable), quick toggles for javascript/css/proxy, etc. :/

Re: Firefox 66.0.4 is out, fixes disabled add-ons

#278

Post by dorgo »

michaelmrose wrote: post #213
rnd0 wrote: post #208

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In this case, I was more insecure being subjected to advertising networks (and the malware carried on them) because of Firefox's mistake which meant I wasn't able to load ublock origin. I'm also not sure how many of those "security patches" are intended to make my browsing experience safer, or simply meant to implement bizarre policies that might blow up in my face at any time (as this certificate issue has). It's a…

It's a bad trade off. Every security related bug Firefox fixes is a how to guide for ruining waterfox users day for anywhere from weeks to years. This will grow increasingly challenging if the code bases diverge in order to keep old school add-ons working given that waterfox has virtually no man power.

One solution would be to have a dedicated computer which is considered compromised from the start. Don't store importent stuff there, don't do money related activities etc. This way you have a convenient browser for 99% of the time - without stupid restrictions and Mozilla control.

In case of infection, restore from image.

edit: replaced spyware with control.

Re: Firefox 66.0.4 is out, fixes disabled add-ons

#279

Post by [deleted] »

Santosh83 wrote: post #265
fraudsyndrome wrote: post #258

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was on the reddit thread when it happened - was super confused as I just updated my firefox and it happened at a very similar time frame so I assumed it was from the update I personally found the issue trivial, my main addon is ublock origin. There was a workaround using about:debugging and installing UBO on there which worked so it's not like the fix was a long process. Being committed to a single browser, if anyo…

I too use only two extensions, uBlock Origin and HTTPS Everywhere and the hotfix pushed by Mozilla re-enabled them within half an hour of disabling. I do sympathise with those who apparently lost the settings of certain addons, notably Container based ones. Fortunately I always found the UX of Containers so clunky that I never bothered. Sticking with Firefox as an open competition to the browser monopoly is critical…

[deleted]

Re: Firefox 66.0.4 is out, fixes disabled add-ons

#280

Post by chronogram »

klez wrote: post #277
curiousgal wrote: post #268

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I haven't installed an add-on in years.

Then you're not affected. What's the matter?

That means: the installation is a while old, installation security is not useful now because the add-ons were installed ages ago, but using them is.
Post reply on HN