'One Ring' Phone Scam
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'One Ring' Phone Scam
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Re: 'One Ring' Phone Scam
#2Scammers are getting more and more sophisticated now a days. It seems like most of these scam calls are a result of the ability to spoof phone numbers.
Spoofing phone numbers does have legitimate purposes (for example a phone number from a customer service company is able to use their company phone number as the caller ID) but these scammers seem to abuse this. It's quite similar to how SMTP for emails allows the "From" field to be set to something other than your actual email. Email scammers abuse this same thing too but the difference is that in SMTP emails, you can still tap the detailed headers of the email and see what the actual "from" email is. But for phone numbers, this isn't the case.
I think, the best way to solve this phone scam issue would be by modifying the phone protocol (I am not sure of the details) to allow users to be able to see the "Real" underlying phone number.
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#3Scammers are getting more and more sophisticated now a days. It seems like most of these scam calls are a result of the ability to spoof phone numbers. Spoofing phone numbers does have legitimate purposes (for example a phone number from a customer service company is able to use their company phone number as the caller ID) but these scammers seem to abuse this. It's quite similar to how SMTP for emails allows the "Fr…
Just like with email, that ship sailed a long time ago. In many cases, there is no "real" underlying phone number (example: VOIP... VOIP numbers may as well be disposable.)
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#4Scammers are getting more and more sophisticated now a days. It seems like most of these scam calls are a result of the ability to spoof phone numbers. Spoofing phone numbers does have legitimate purposes (for example a phone number from a customer service company is able to use their company phone number as the caller ID) but these scammers seem to abuse this. It's quite similar to how SMTP for emails allows the "Fr…
At the very least, for calls purporting to come from within the US, it seems that telephone companies should be able to verify the actual origin of the call and cut off spammers. But perhaps there is more to this than I understand that makes it infeasible.
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#5I can’t imagine why anyone ever answers the phone. I get at least ten robocalls every weekday. I don’t ever look at my voicemail and I haven’t answered a call in ages.
Edit: I know I’m not alone because CNN just released a poll with no responses from people under the age of fifty, because they couldn’t reach enough of them by phone.
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#6"at not cost." A scam warning with a typo.
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#7Scammers are getting more and more sophisticated now a days. It seems like most of these scam calls are a result of the ability to spoof phone numbers. Spoofing phone numbers does have legitimate purposes (for example a phone number from a customer service company is able to use their company phone number as the caller ID) but these scammers seem to abuse this. It's quite similar to how SMTP for emails allows the "Fr…
Just like with email, that ship sailed a long time ago. In many cases, there is no "real" underlying phone number (example: VOIP... VOIP numbers may as well be disposable.)
I don't know, I could see the big mobile networks going off on their own and highlighting trusted callers from their own networks. And it would take only a few peering points between the big providers to cover the vast majority of cell users. I would actually switch networks for this (presumably one would do it first).
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#8I feel like if FCC/Telephone providers don't fix this soon, traditional cell phones will become unreliable and we will need to adopt a new system or just use existing framework (facetime, whatsapp, etc.).
If every cell phone has LTE and internet connection, why the fuck do we need traditional cell phone number? I never use it except for calling my pharmacy, customer support or restaurants/shops. All conversations with friends and family happen over messages and Facetime Audio or Whatsapp.
While I don't wish to suggest we move to a proprietary system such as Facetime, I think there is a real need for email equivalent of a VOIP solution where there is automatic spam filtering just like emails.
Also, why can't cell phone providers use same spam filtering techniques used in email filters? I don't know the details of spoofing but I feel like telephone providers are scum of the earth and they have some kind of a reverse incentive to continue allowing spam calls.
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#9Scammers are getting more and more sophisticated now a days. It seems like most of these scam calls are a result of the ability to spoof phone numbers. Spoofing phone numbers does have legitimate purposes (for example a phone number from a customer service company is able to use their company phone number as the caller ID) but these scammers seem to abuse this. It's quite similar to how SMTP for emails allows the "Fr…
At the very least, for calls purporting to come from within the US, it seems that telephone companies should be able to verify the actual origin of the call and cut off spammers. But perhaps there is more to this than I understand that makes it infeasible.
That is largely correct, yes - the issue comes up where numbers are valid from more than one carrier, even though say, carrier A owns the numbers, its perfectly valid to place outbound calls for those numbers via carrier B - there is no records kept for that kind of thing currently however.
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#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just like with email, that ship sailed a long time ago. In many cases, there is no "real" underlying phone number (example: VOIP... VOIP numbers may as well be disposable.)
I don't know, I could see the big mobile networks going off on their own and highlighting trusted callers from their own networks. And it would take only a few peering points between the big providers to cover the vast majority of cell users. I would actually switch networks for this (presumably one would do it first).
It's not even trusted callers, its blocking CID spoofing for numbers in their own owned pools, that are originating calls from elsewhere - this should be blocked, as I can think of very few cases where a cellular provider would find this valid.