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Re: Canada Border Services seizes lawyer's phone, laptop for not sharing passwords

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is wrong with sex tourism?

In most parts of the world, sex workers don't exactly have strong human rights protections. In a poor country, it's generally worse. A relatively wealthy, privileged person going someplace poor for sex is probably doing it because it facilitates doing rather nasty things in a way that is comfortable for them. They don't need to be ugly about it. Someone else will be ugly about it on their behalf while making them fee…

> A relatively wealthy, privileged person going someplace poor for sex is probably doing it because it facilitates doing rather nasty things in a way that is comfortable for them

Or simply because it's easier because prostitution is not (as) criminal and/or it's well organised (e.g. red light zones), and not forgetting it's likely to be much cheaper. To assume their choice of destination for something as nasty as raping children is quite a jump.

Re: Canada Border Services seizes lawyer's phone, laptop for not sharing passwords

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>Wright refused, telling the officer both devices contained confidential information protected by solicitor-client privilege. >He said the officer then confiscated his phone and laptop, and told him the items would be sent to a government lab which would try to crack his passwords and search his files. Can this be used to get whatever case(es) he was defending thrown out because solicitor-client privilege was violate…

This and related edge cases are something that I've always wondered about e.g. where compliance would be illegal. There are a number of scenarios where one can have content on devices that it is expressly illegal to disclose to random border police. Even within a single country, there is a conflict of authority here.

A solution is to just not cross borders with things you can't disclose.

Re: Canada Border Services seizes lawyer's phone, laptop for not sharing passwords

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It's stuff like this that makes me want to build after-market privacy-oriented Samsung firmware, that at a low level (secondary bootloader) supports dual booting. By default you'd boot into the "non-private" environment. That way if customs asks to see your device, you simply boot it up and hand it over. Could make life a lot easier for lawyers, doctors, C-level executives etc.

I should note, dual-booting Android phones isn't a new concept, it's just generally performed at a higher (less secure) level. In particular, the secondary bootloader implements Loke (flashing protocol)[1], so a custom secondary bootloader could also prohibit flashing of unsigned images.

[1] source, I'm the developer of Heimdall - https://github.com/Benjamin-Dobell/Heimdall - https://gitlab.com/BenjaminDobell/Heimdall

Re: Canada Border Services seizes lawyer's phone, laptop for not sharing passwords

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

In most parts of the world, sex workers don't exactly have strong human rights protections. In a poor country, it's generally worse. A relatively wealthy, privileged person going someplace poor for sex is probably doing it because it facilitates doing rather nasty things in a way that is comfortable for them. They don't need to be ugly about it. Someone else will be ugly about it on their behalf while making them fee…

> A relatively wealthy, privileged person going someplace poor for sex is probably doing it because it facilitates doing rather nasty things in a way that is comfortable for them Or simply because it's easier because prostitution is not (as) criminal and/or it's well organised (e.g. red light zones), and not forgetting it's likely to be much cheaper. To assume their choice of destination for something as nasty as rap…

It's not an assumption. That's based on reading about the topic.

It may not be universally true, but the fact that it is fairly often true is why the term has such negative meaning for most people.

Re: Canada Border Services seizes lawyer's phone, laptop for not sharing passwords

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Something I wish iOS had is the dummy password to unlock the phone into a sandboxes type area without any of my personal data. “Yeah sure i’ll unlock it, nope that’s all I have on there”

I think this might backfire, though.

It's the same problem with Veracrypt/LUKS hidden volumes. If they know about the sandbox capability, they could easily say "okay, now unlock the real one" if they find nothing incriminating. What happens if you _did_ unlock the real volume/sandbox in the first place and have nothing incriminating on it?

Only remedy for this is having arbitrarily many sandboxes.

Re: Canada Border Services seizes lawyer's phone, laptop for not sharing passwords

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It's stuff like this that makes me want to build after-market privacy-oriented Samsung firmware, that at a low level (secondary bootloader) supports dual booting. By default you'd boot into the "non-private" environment. That way if customs asks to see your device, you simply boot it up and hand it over. Could make life a lot easier for lawyers, doctors, C-level executives etc. I should note, dual-booting Android pho…

Would this system come with plausible deniability?

Also, does anything like this exist for desktop operating systems?

Re: Canada Border Services seizes lawyer's phone, laptop for not sharing passwords

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It's stuff like this that makes me want to build after-market privacy-oriented Samsung firmware, that at a low level (secondary bootloader) supports dual booting. By default you'd boot into the "non-private" environment. That way if customs asks to see your device, you simply boot it up and hand it over. Could make life a lot easier for lawyers, doctors, C-level executives etc. I should note, dual-booting Android pho…

Thank you for using Gitlab. I'm not affiliated with them but I love seeing open source projects that use open source platforms.

Re: Canada Border Services seizes lawyer's phone, laptop for not sharing passwords

#339

It's stuff like this that makes me want to build after-market privacy-oriented Samsung firmware, that at a low level (secondary bootloader) supports dual booting. By default you'd boot into the "non-private" environment. That way if customs asks to see your device, you simply boot it up and hand it over. Could make life a lot easier for lawyers, doctors, C-level executives etc. I should note, dual-booting Android pho…

Would this system come with plausible deniability? Also, does anything like this exist for desktop operating systems?

If there is a common mechanism for triggering dual boot, they would know about it and try it out too. So, not unless you use a unique, inconspicuous mechanism.

Re: Canada Border Services seizes lawyer's phone, laptop for not sharing passwords

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I've always preferred having a dedicated desktop that acts as a personal server and then a small cheap laptop that I use to remotely access it. While this preference is mostly driven by capitalizing on the performance/price/size difference between desktops and laptops, it has lots of advantages when it comes to these situations. My Dell XPS 13 only has 128GB of storage so none of the data exists solely on that device…

I travel similarly equipped - with the idea that I can't lose (or lose control of) data I don't have with me. This addresses the threats represented by border control, intranational security checks, theft of device, and unintended hardware acceleration (@9.8m/s^2). At most, a laptop or a phone is a cache of data that's already elsewhere.

It's really the unintended deceleration you need to worry about.
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