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Re: Firefox 66.0.4 is out, fixes disabled add-ons

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This is pretty bad for Firefox. I wonder how much people straight up & left for Chrome as a result of it.

Or they just lived with it for a few days. They were probably using FF because the addon doesn’t exist for chrome in the first olace

It was also over the weekend.

All it did was cement how much I despise Chrome's inability to sandbox it's network config.

Yay gotta close down all chrome instances to turn a proxy on and off.

Re: Firefox 66.0.4 is out, fixes disabled add-ons

#192

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They made it default. It's called Normandy.

A place most people associate with the largest amphibious invasion in history seems a curious choice of codeword.

The name fits the feature imo.

Re: Firefox 66.0.4 is out, fixes disabled add-ons

#193

I'm really worried about the average users not knowing what happened here. At least an email should be sent informing about the issue. But I guess many of those average users don't have a single extension installed, no problems for them.

The average user doesn't really need to know. The problem was fixed, there is no action on their part needed and there is no future risk like a data leak.

Re: Firefox 66.0.4 is out, fixes disabled add-ons

#194
post #90

This is pretty bad for Firefox. I wonder how much people straight up & left for Chrome as a result of it.

I took the opportunity to check out Vivaldi again. Wow. It's so polished compared to Firefox. The downside is I'm now supporting the Chromium monoculture.

Re: Firefox 66.0.4 is out, fixes disabled add-ons

#196
post #90

This is pretty bad for Firefox. I wonder how much people straight up & left for Chrome as a result of it.

It's about 10-15% on my app but Firefox users are generally super smart so they provide great feedback.

One thing Firefox ROCKS at is that they support extensions/addons on mobile!

Chrome won't add them on mobile because they don't want adblock there.

Re: Firefox 66.0.4 is out, fixes disabled add-ons

#197
post #3

A good outcome of this certificate fiasco is that many firefox users learned about the "studies" and "Normandy" brain-damage and promptly disabled them.

> A good outcome of this certificate fiasco is that many firefox users learned about the "studies" and "Normandy" brain-damage and promptly disabled them. I'm actually curious about how the common user reacted to this. There isn't a clue about this on (1) the add-on page, (2) Mozilla's home page, (3) no emails sent out (I get plenty of other emails from Mozilla). Currently, when you try and (re)install an "unsupporte…

>I'm actually curious about how the common user reacted to this. There isn't a clue about this on (1) the add-on page, (2) Mozilla's home page, (3) no emails sent out (I get plenty of other emails from Mozilla).

That's a good question. Of course we have to assume we're talking about the common add-on user, since some users don't have addons.

An incredible 3.2 million users (out of 10 million daily active) attempted to download Adblock Plus on Saturday, after it was disabled. Some of these might be duplicates of course, but I think this suggests:

(1) most users who use addons noticed when they were disabled (2) most of them were confused (at least initially) about the reason this happened, since there was no direct communication from Mozilla about the problem in the browser itself (3) many of these attempted to redownload their extensions as a solution to the problem

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/adblock-plus/...

Re: Firefox 66.0.4 is out, fixes disabled add-ons

#198

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Because functionality like that can be used to enable/disable features outside of tests as well. For example gating new things which could become a stability issue. Sometimes it's a choice between control or no control. Sometimes it's between your browser crashing or not. The power users will care about control, but the general population of users not really.

> For example gating new things which could become a stability issue. And yet we were somehow able to ship stable software to millions of people in the days before telemetry/studies. What telemetry/studies truly provides is offloading QA costs to users.

The software was also simpler. And we were not really great to shipping stable software in the past.

Re: Firefox 66.0.4 is out, fixes disabled add-ons

#200

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Huh? When was it promoted as a replacement, by whom? It’s not even in the same product category/ RSS aggregates updates to websites without needing to check them. Pocket takes an article you have open in your browser right now and saves a local offline copy on your phone. They’re apples and oranges. Apples and orangutangs, even.

https://www.theverge.com/2018/6/13/17446660/mozilla-firefox-... This sounds a lot like pushing it as an alternative to RSS to me.

You’re being obtuse. At no point does that mention RSS nor describe anything like RSS at all.

If I was not being generous, I’d think you were being intentionally obtuse to justify a preconceived opinion.

But whatever. I work on that very product.

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