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Firefox 66.0.4 is out, fixes disabled add-ons

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Re: Firefox 66.0.4 is out, fixes disabled add-ons

#71

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Yes. The testing should be done on users that opt in (likely less than 0.1% but that should be OK if it's done properly) and it should be rolled out by releasing an update to everyone. These so-called "best practices" often aren't.

I don't see the purpose. There seems to be an assumption that A/B testing is inherently bad, therefor should be opt-in. A/B testing is necessary for stable rollouts, that much seems self evident. So what is the evidence that A/B testing is harmful to users?

It isn't A/B testing that is bad, it is running and/or modifying stuff in the user's computer without their knowledge that is bad. If a site modifies some part of their layout or whatever isn't bad, but a browser installing addons or changing settings to see if it will crash is bad.

Re: Firefox 66.0.4 is out, fixes disabled add-ons

#72
post #41

No release for android yet, at least not on [1], where I am getting the apk files from. As of now, latest release uploaded there is 66.0.2 from March. [1]: https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/mobile/releases/ EDIT it's up: https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/mobile/releases/66.0.4/

Have been polling https://download.mozilla.org/?product=fennec-latest&os=andro... Still getting 66.0.2... :-/ And yes, my addons were disabled on 66.0.2.

Gives 66.0.4 now

Re: Firefox 66.0.4 is out, fixes disabled add-ons

#73
post #41

No release for android yet, at least not on [1], where I am getting the apk files from. As of now, latest release uploaded there is 66.0.2 from March. [1]: https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/mobile/releases/ EDIT it's up: https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/mobile/releases/66.0.4/

xpinstall.signatures.required = false worked for me on android

Re: Firefox 66.0.4 is out, fixes disabled add-ons

#74
post #70

Is there a little more background to what is happening here? The link is to an ftp, so I have no idea what is broken, fixed or why it matters.

If your addons are broken, it will fix them. If you don’t use addons or they’re working fine, you can let autoupdate pick it up.

The release notes will be published at this URL:

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/66.0.4/releasenotes/

Re: Firefox 66.0.4 is out, fixes disabled add-ons

#76
post #65

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Having a capability for widespread A/B testing is brain-damage?

It's just the usual tug of war between developers and users for control of the computer. A completely careful open source project would normally leave such controversial things off by default, and moz which leans corporate will go part of the way towards enabling such features. I don't mind their compromise, they do good.

> It's just the usual tug of war between developers and users for control of the computer.

And the annoying part of this being developers who act as if they do not understand (or just brush off) the concerns that the users have.

Like, people want control over their own machines. How is that hard to understand?

Re: Firefox 66.0.4 is out, fixes disabled add-ons

#77
post #57

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I was pretty pissed about the issue and the reasons that led to it, would you please introduce me to the trusted browser provider you are heading to? Because despite this and all the previous issues, I don't see any alternative that is half as good or cares about me as a user.

Currently, Vivaldi. Yes, I know about the privacy implications, but at least they're trying to get better, not worse. I wish Netsurf had more manpower.

Oh well, I do use chromium as a last resort, every few months. If this the alternative, I prefer to suffer Firefox shenanigans every now and then.

I was seriously annoyed by the move to the new add-ons framework, and stayed way too long on unsupported, unpatched old version, until everything I needed was available, to some degree at least, in the new framework. I tried but didn't stick to Chromium as my main tool.

As it is, Firefox is ugly on some days, but for me at least, it still the best tool available, and it still feel pretty much like mine.

Re: Firefox 66.0.4 is out, fixes disabled add-ons

#79
post #69

I don't understand why renewing the certificate wouldn't fix the issue ? How does the 66.0.4 fix the problem exactly ?

It's a signing certificate that is built into the browser to verify add-ons, not a normal TLS certificate that they can just update on a web server. The change basically just imports the new certificate into the database: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-release/rev/848b1502...

That is not a complete statement of the changes shown. In addition to the unexpired certificate, it takes step to reenable any addons that were disabled by the expiration of the prior certificate.
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