I don't understand why renewing the certificate wouldn't fix the issue ?
How does the 66.0.4 fix the problem exactly ?
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Re: Firefox 66.0.4 is out, fixes disabled add-ons
#52What about older versions? Does this mean that older versions of firefox can never be used with addons (even matching older versions) anymore?
Good question. Looks like they do have a release for 60 (the current ESR):
Re: Firefox 66.0.4 is out, fixes disabled add-ons
#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes. The testing should be done on users that opt in (likely less than 0.1% but that should be OK if it's done properly) and it should be rolled out by releasing an update to everyone. These so-called "best practices" often aren't.
By relying on opt-in you won't test whether a feature actually works for the average user, so if you don't test it, you might roll something useless/confusing/actively harmful out to all of them instead of just a few.
And that's OK. Being honest to your users is much more important that having the most efficient deploy system.
I, for one, as a matter of principle, opt-in to all user tracking systems that are disabled by default, and try to opt-out whenever they are enabled by default. In the case of firefox, it was never clear to me that the tracking/remote install capability was enabled by default.
Re: Firefox 66.0.4 is out, fixes disabled add-ons
#54No release for android yet, at least not on [1], where I am getting the apk files from. As of now, latest release uploaded there is 66.0.2 from March. [1]: https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/mobile/releases/ EDIT it's up: https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/mobile/releases/66.0.4/
Well, at least you didn't get hit with 66.0.3.
My addons were disabled on 66.0.2.
Re: Firefox 66.0.4 is out, fixes disabled add-ons
#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
Calling people shills without proof is not an honest argument. Sometimes people just have different views. I downvote those comments because they're unsubstantiated and needlessly pessimistic. Mozilla is still one of the better organizations out there.
As author of the original "pessimistic" comment, I want to say that I agree 100% with you. Mozilla is indeed the most important free software project today. Thus, I am very sad and pessimistic when they exhibit subpar behavior such as this.
Given the HN guidelines on this, I’ll lay off on the specific type of comment I made. (Although it’s quite a normal thing to notice and point out in other communities).
However, precisely because of the importance projects like Mozilla and browser technology in general, I think it is perfectly reasonable to expect the highest standard of behavior. I personally have concerns about certain aspects of their activities (not related to downvoting) in recent years and am well within my rights to express them.
Re: Firefox 66.0.4 is out, fixes disabled add-ons
#56I have to say I was very pleased that the Debian-ESR package a) disables telemetry in the build and b) ESR still allows you to override the extension signing for now...
Re: Firefox 66.0.4 is out, fixes disabled add-ons
#57I am not interested in finding out what they'll break next unless I want to participate in their Normandy botnet. Goodbye, Mozilla.
I was pretty pissed about the issue and the reasons that led to it, would you please introduce me to the trusted browser provider you are heading to?
Because despite this and all the previous issues, I don't see any alternative that is half as good or cares about me as a user.
Re: Firefox 66.0.4 is out, fixes disabled add-ons
#58I am not interested in finding out what they'll break next unless I want to participate in their Normandy botnet. Goodbye, Mozilla.
That's a pretty uncharitable characterization of their experiments framework. Have you ever worked on large-scale software with tens of millions of users or end-points? Then no doubt you'll know the tremendous value incremental deployments and test/control groups have.
A botnet for a good cause is still a botnet.
Re: Firefox 66.0.4 is out, fixes disabled add-ons
#59I'm still on 66.0.3 and the issue resolved itself, I believe, yesterday...
Same. I found some pretty good instructions[1] so all my plugins started working this morning, CET. And you can disable the studies when you're done. 1. https://forums.informaction.com/viewtopic.php?p=100053#p1000...
Please don't lower the value of run_interval_seconds like suggested there. If many people do that it will cause those of us on the ops team for Firefox's backend services some headaches.
Re: Firefox 66.0.4 is out, fixes disabled add-ons
#60I am not interested in finding out what they'll break next unless I want to participate in their Normandy botnet. Goodbye, Mozilla.
I was pretty pissed about the issue and the reasons that led to it, would you please introduce me to the trusted browser provider you are heading to? Because despite this and all the previous issues, I don't see any alternative that is half as good or cares about me as a user.
Currently, Vivaldi. Yes, I know about the privacy implications, but at least they're trying to get better, not worse.
I wish Netsurf had more manpower.