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L.A.’s Elite on Edge as Prosecutors Pursue More Parents in Admissions Scandal

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What about the middle-class kid who doesn't qualify to any of these programs whose chance to get the best teachers and nurturing environment is spoiled by the dumb rich kid taking a spot and wasting it? What about the extra administrative, time burden and uncertainty of outcome the poor kids have to suffer to chase all these financial aid programs? There's clearly room for improvement.

> What about the middle-class kid who doesn't qualify to any of these programs Citation needed. I was that kid myself. There are no "programs" to "qualify" for. You file a financial aid form. Whatever you and your parents can reasonably pay, you pay, and the school covers the rest. It works for everyone. And one of the reasons it works for everyone is revenue that the school generates, and yeah, that includes some sh…

yea that doesnt work. anyone with a family above poverty level basically gets no financial aid other saying get some loans. try asking literally any of the thousands of kids applying in california or texas or new york

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Are you suggesting they let in people who failed the standardized exam just to improve racial diversity?

Perhaps you're not from the US? There is a strong current of sentiment in some quarters of the US that this is exactly what should happen if society's playing field is every going to be leveled.

no, discrimination doesnt fix discrimination. and real discrimination really doesnt fix imagined discrimination.

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The problem with elite colleges like Harvard, has nothing to do with meritocracy. In fact, it's the opposite. They use opaque and subjective criteria in their admissions process, in order to favor those born into privilege. For a better example of a meritocracy, take a look at New York's elite magnet schools like Stuyvesant. Their admissions process is a pure meritocracy - based entirely on a standardized exam that i…

Economic diversity, yes. But Stuyvesant is 92% white and Asian, which is not racially diverse.

or we can stop judging people based on their skin color and move on

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Does that system come with any notable drawbacks of its own?

What kind of issues usually arise with choosing based on merit?

Based on being able to do well on a test. Very different kind of merit than I think is actually useful in a lot of real life.
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