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Re: Spaced Repetition

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very interesting, i would also like to know how you organise your decks/tags

I use a single deck, which seems to be a commonly accepted best practice for Anki because mixing topics is good for learning. I do tag my cards. For example, if a card is "In HTML, what header should you use to make a website responsive?", I would tag it with "programming," "webdev," and "html." The organization is there, but I haven't actually found a use case for the tags yet.

My plan is to use tags for deleting cards. For example, when I take another job/role then lots of cards should become obsolete.

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I mentioned it before, but https://ncase.me/remember/ is a verily accessible read on the subject of spaced repetition.

I have often tried finding the actual research articles that describe the increasing half-life at the "nearly forgetting" point.

Does anyone know where I can find the equations that model this qualitatively? (of course there's no expectation that it will list actual quantitative coefficients for my brain)

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I don't. Everything goes into a single deck so that my review sessions interleave[1] topics. But if you have cards that you don't find interesting or useful anymore, maybe it'd be better to just delete them. [1]: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-interleaving-...

Doesn't that mean you have to manually put the subject into each card? E.g. I am currently using Anki to learn more keyboard shortcuts for Bash, Tmux, and vim, and the deck tells me which program the card is talking about. I already have to put context for vim visual mode keys in those cards. Edit: Ah, just saw your other comment about doing something like it with tags.

I still manually add context to each card. I want each card to be self-sufficient, even without any tag data.

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I've been doing the "30 hour method" as described here: https://azeria-labs.com/the-importance-of-deep-work-the-30-h... It's sort of like the Pomodoro technique, except with 30-hour chunks instead of 30-minute chunks. (Obviously they serve different purposes.) After studying a topic, while it is still fresh in my mind, I will make a few entries into my spaced repetition system (org-mode) and then I only review the en…

What are some of the things are you studying? Do you do 2 sessions a week? For 7 sessions, so that's 3.5 weeks, and then an extra session on the review/spaced repetition?

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If anyone's studying Japanese, I made two iOS apps for spaced repetition systems specializing in the unique needs of learning Japanese. The first is a flashcard application called Manabi. It uses a similar algorithm as Anki with a priority on UX. https://manabi.io The other is Manabi Reader, which complements the flashcard app. It curates feeds of interesting short-form content, has one-tap dictionary lookups, option…

This looks really cool. Do you have plans for an android version? I wouldn't mind paying for this.

Sorry, no, they’re completely native apps so I would have to rewrite from scratch on Android. Would rather focus my time on improving these. Cheers.

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I mentioned it before, but https://ncase.me/remember/ is a verily accessible read on the subject of spaced repetition.

I have often tried finding the actual research articles that describe the increasing half-life at the "nearly forgetting" point. Does anyone know where I can find the equations that model this qualitatively? (of course there's no expectation that it will list actual quantitative coefficients for my brain)

Scroll to the bottom of the SuperMemo homepage (https://www.supermemo.com/en) and look at the list of articles. Some of them are rather informal, others are more academic, although I'm unsure if they were peer reviewed and published or not.

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This looks really cool. Do you have plans for an android version? I wouldn't mind paying for this.

Sorry, no, they’re completely native apps so I would have to rewrite from scratch on Android. Would rather focus my time on improving these. Cheers.

That's too bad :(. Although, I admire your attitude of focusing on improving the iOS apps rather than branching out.

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What kind of things should everyone memorize using spaced repetition?

Most people seem to use it to learn languages and technical subjects. I'm looking for things that most people would find useful in their daily lives:

- Social security number

- Credit card number

- Passport number

- Multiplication tables

- Unit conversion tables

- Emergency phone numbers

- Recovery codes and passwords

- Basic recipes and cocktails

- First aid techniques

- Survival techniques

- Phonetic alphabet

- NATO phonetic alphabet

- Basic words in foreign languages

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I have often tried finding the actual research articles that describe the increasing half-life at the "nearly forgetting" point. Does anyone know where I can find the equations that model this qualitatively? (of course there's no expectation that it will list actual quantitative coefficients for my brain)

Scroll to the bottom of the SuperMemo homepage ( https://www.supermemo.com/en ) and look at the list of articles. Some of them are rather informal, others are more academic, although I'm unsure if they were peer reviewed and published or not.

thanks for roughly pointing me in the right direction, but at http://super-memory.com/help/fi.htm it states:

>It is difficult to determine exactly what forgetting index brings the highest acquisition rate. Simulation experiments have consistently pointed to the value of 25-30%. You can even plot speed-vs.-forgetting graph using your own actual learning material in SuperMemo 98 or later using Tools : Statistics : Simulation. You will probably also arrive at similar results

How can simulation provide us with actual real world data?

How do we know that the forgetting index sweet spot is independent of the number or even history of recall attempts? If I write R to denote remembered and F as forgotten, then I can imagine RRF, RFR, FRR (variable ordering of failures for a constant recall rate), and RRF, RFF, FFF (variable retention rate for different factoids), and R, RR, RRR (number of recall attempts) to influence the sweet spot level.

Does Anki support plotting plotting such a user's graph? If it does I might consider rewriting the code such that it can generate multiple plots (to find sweet spot at N-th recall attempt, N-th recall attempt with M succesful out of N-1 previous recall attempts, ...)

in the above "simulation experiments" links to http://super-memory.com/articles/theory.htm#maximum%20speed

which doesn't describe any simulation, but just shows a plot, presumably generated by supermemo statistics for an individual?

If someone has a large homogenous set of Anki cards, I'd like to experiment myself. Perhaps vocabulary of a foreign language? If I'm going to use a vocabulary dataset, I'd need a dataset where the responses are sense disambiguated though (i.e. the sense in parentheses), otherwise I am cramming wrong associations.

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Not so much to complain, but a thing I noticed while scrolling fast is that the screen is black for a split second, and then text appears. I wonder why that is?

Probably because he’s using google fonts.

It doesn't use Google Fonts, and even if it did, I don't see why that would cause screen rendering issues on scroll (as opposed to rendering delays on initial page load).
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