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Rose Marie Bentley lived for 99 years with organs in all the wrong places

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Re: Rose Marie Bentley lived for 99 years with organs in all the wrong places

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Maybe a tattoo of the organ locations would be helpful?

Unlike most, mine is an exact mirror. I missed it earlier but this is what the Totalis refers to in Dextro Cardia, w/ Situs Inversus Totalis. Adding a tattoo of my organ placement would be comical. I'd be a human Operations Boardgame by the end of it.

I’ve just been playing that game - the version on ship shelves now is a shadow of its former self. The version I played in the 80’s was excellent.

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This is fascinating! I was diagnosed with dextrocardia w/ situs inversus at 19. I didn't make it to 99 years old to find out I had it, but several physicians and doctors in my childhood missed the diagnosis too. Story time! This is written on mobile so I apologise for grammar and spelling errors. I had awful asthma as a child and would frequently visit hospital till my teenage years because of asthma attacks and simi…

> doctors look straight past the condition and consider it to be an X-ray Technician error. This can go the other way too. As a student I “corrected” an initial film as it came out the film processor. The patient hadn’t been imaged before and they had dextrocardia. Basically I turned the film over and sent it for reporting with the left and right reversed. The reporting radiologist noticed as the name tab, which used…

Did the X-ray have the metal L/R "tags" in the image? Did you assume the radiographer had placed these incorrectly? My understanding is they are how you understand orientation.

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The molecular mechanism that determines left-right asymmetry in the body is extremely interesting. For mice, it comes down to Nodal flow from ciliary movement that occurs around E8. The cilia rotate clockwise to generate leftward flow to establish a gradient to generate left-right asymmetry.

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Not OP, but I always thought it’s amazing how it becomes second nature. You think you want to turn left and slow down, not I have to use my left foot to slowly press the brake and slowly move my hands in a circle while grasping.

Breaking with the left foot sounds really dangerous. What is the right foot doing? ...though I guess you were just reinforcing your point: driving becomes so second nature that you forget the implementation details.

Actually, two feet driving is superior to traditional method in every way, especially on a slippery road. The only problem with it is that when you try it, you are a newbie again, so of course you can mix up pedals just like when you were learning driving. So train it on roads without traffic.

https://www.vox.com/2015/7/1/8877583/two-foot-driving-pedal-...

Re: Rose Marie Bentley lived for 99 years with organs in all the wrong places

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How does the body figure out which side is left and which side is right? I can think of an easy way to break symmetry but it seems harder to consistently know which side is which.

Maybe it figures out left/right but mixes up up/down :) Flipped upside down and rotated 180 degrees is the same thing as flipped left/right.

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My favorite was a statistician in the late 40's early 50's who was tasked by the air force to find the 'average pilot'. The reason was new fangled jet fighters were crashing due to pilot error. At higher rates than could be anything but problems with the man machine interface. He and his helpers took 10's of thousands of measurements of thousands of air force pilots and determined that, there is no such thing as the…

What's really whack when you consider it is the same neuromuscular system that allows us to walk can also be repurposed to drive a car, fly a plane and operate other machinery. Isn’t this because we purposely design all those things around our anatomy though? I’d imagine alien octopuses’ vehicles would be designed around their anatomy and they would have no trouble using them.

I am curious what limitations of our anatomy are out of the norm for other intelligent technological civilizations.

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My favorite was a statistician in the late 40's early 50's who was tasked by the air force to find the 'average pilot'. The reason was new fangled jet fighters were crashing due to pilot error. At higher rates than could be anything but problems with the man machine interface. He and his helpers took 10's of thousands of measurements of thousands of air force pilots and determined that, there is no such thing as the…

What's really whack when you consider it is the same neuromuscular system that allows us to walk can also be repurposed to drive a car, fly a plane and operate other machinery. Isn’t this because we purposely design all those things around our anatomy though? I’d imagine alien octopuses’ vehicles would be designed around their anatomy and they would have no trouble using them.

>> What's really whack when you consider it is the same neuromuscular system that allows us to walk can also be repurposed to drive a car, fly a plane and operate other machinery. > Isn’t this because we purposely design all those things around our anatomy though?

Agreed. What's more impressive is that this "single neuromuscular system" can climb a tree, swim across a lake, or hike across a continent.

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This is awesome! For some reason I got really nervous reading about your accident. I was sure they opened you up and did some damage! I hope you keep going strong with the condition. I wonder how many people have lived full lives and never had it be detected.

Yes there is something very disturbing about the thought of doctors potentially opening up your body and shuffling your perfectly functional organs around because they think they’re supposed to be somewhere else.

Classic refactoring story.
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