This article seems to imply it must be a craft of some kind, but I'm not convinced natural phenomena can be ruled out. As an example, ball lightning is still not particularly well understood and behaves in rather peculiar seeming ways. The speed that this 'object' moved at makes much more sense if it's entirely electromagnetic in nature.
What Is Going on with UFOs and the Department of Defense?
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#42Isn't this most likely just a response to the surge of drones over the last half decade?
I imagine UFO sightings have proportionally increased and thus the number of ad-hoc reported sightings within the Navy finally crossed the threshold.
It could even be a foreign government or spy agency doing amateur reconnaissance with new tech.
As the article states,
> The lack of a structured procedure and classification system, and the nebulous fear of being stigmatized by reporting things like UFOs [is] something that has long plagued the military and private sectors alike
There is also the nebulous fear of people overreacting whenever you finally decide to implement these common-sense policies. You must be hiding something, even if you were ironically just trying to be more transparent.
I don't mean to sound like a denier. The released IR footage from the same observation period [0] is incredible and, if real, proves that high-G maneuvers without exhaust or aerofoils exist and we are still lacking some very fundamental understanding about the nature of gravity.
I also found the article to be well thought-out and that it covered most of the most obvious answers without trying to paint a particular picture. I'll have to pay more attention to Rogoway.
Speculating on the shape of the aircraft, would the round tic-tac shape provide the least average air resistance in every direction provided an aerofoil is not needed for flight?
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#43"Let me underline this again for you, the Nimitz encounter with the Tic Tac proved that exotic technology that is widely thought of as the domain of science fiction actually exists. It is real." Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. A blurry video and some eyewitness reports are not extraordinary evidence. Humans lie all the time, but very rarely discover new physics.
With the proliferation of mobile devices, you'd expect there to be an increase in footage of such sightings with an equivalent increase in quality. Yet virtually everything available is low quality, grainy rubbish. On the other hand, the accessibility of video editing software makes such claims dubious at best regardless of quality or presentation. I agree with others who've suggested this is either a counter intelli…
I’ve personally seen what some would call a UFO, and was too awestruck to even consider recording the event. I’m not saying it was an alien craft, but it was being chased by military jets and lost their trail when it started flashing a row of rainbow lights and rose from above the trees to disappearing like a satellite in the sky. I’ve never really spoken about it and who knows what it was. All I know is it didn’t follow any propulsion rules I’ve ever seen, and didn’t even think about the chance to record it until much later.
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#44Here is Skeptical Inquirer article about 'Tic Tac' incident.
https://skepticalinquirer.org/2018/05/navy_pilots_2004_ufo_a...
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#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
With the proliferation of mobile devices, you'd expect there to be an increase in footage of such sightings with an equivalent increase in quality. Yet virtually everything available is low quality, grainy rubbish. On the other hand, the accessibility of video editing software makes such claims dubious at best regardless of quality or presentation. I agree with others who've suggested this is either a counter intelli…
> With the proliferation of mobile devices, you'd expect there to be an increase in footage of such sightings with an equivalent increase in quality. Phones have lenses with wide focal lengths and tiny sensors. You need a very different device to capture small objects far away from you with high resolution.
Well, true, but when was the last time you heard of an alien abduction?
Seemed like everyone was getting kidnapped a generation ago.
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#46Surely military planes are equipped with enough cameras that they don't have to rely on verbal pilot eye witness stories for these things?
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#47Bad UFOs also covers this ongoing story from a skeptical perspective.
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#48Surely military planes are equipped with enough cameras that they don't have to rely on verbal pilot eye witness stories for these things?
I don’t think there’s a real scientific problem here that needs solving, it’s mostly appeasing the pilots so they have some bureaucratic black hole to write down their concerns and management can just say “okay we have a record of it, we’ll let you know if anything comes up”.
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#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Secondly, why would aliens reveal themselves in such a way? It is a possibility if those “aliens” are biological humans in possession of technology far superior to anything we have now. Then you’d want to keep it a secret.
Why keep it a secret? If we somehow where able to meet humans with a technology level below ours, wouldn't it make sense to give them technology to better themselves?
Why would you give powerful and highly advanced technology to a race that is constantly fighting itself and doesn't value its native environment enough to protect it?
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#50Surely military planes are equipped with enough cameras that they don't have to rely on verbal pilot eye witness stories for these things?
That's a big part of this article, it talks about a network of censors. Since stealth crafts are typically only stealthly at certain angles, the combination of multiple view points would highlight any stealth objects, and that merged picture could be broadcast to all assets in the area. It also happens that experimental network was the place the incident occured, and it seeminly recorded everything. Shortly after the incident uniformed officers came and confiscated the recordings.