Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hiding behind ToS is ridiculous. Nobody reads them and a moral company should never assume that because its in the ToS they actually have informed consent.
TOS agreements should be illegal in the US, especially those that try to circumvent our 'Freedoms of Speech'.
Update Regarding Add-Ons in Firefox
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Re: Update Regarding Add-Ons in Firefox
#272There's something really wrong with the organization.
And I thought it was only their marketing/pr that was bad.
> We can't afford to lose Mozilla and Firefox.
Re: Update Regarding Add-Ons in Firefox
#273This one will be emotional as this destroyed some of my today's work. F you Mozilla. I lost all my tabs opened in other containers. The containers don't work too, so I cannot reopen them. This bug has been known for 3 years, and you did nothing to fix it. You get so much money, and what you do is basically provide a pathetic software (thunderbird) and a nice browser (which you just stopped from working) and you show…
Hey, just FYI, there are some good solutions in this thread to get your problem fixed ASAP. This one should work. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19827302
My reply is here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19828472
Re: Update Regarding Add-Ons in Firefox
#274This one will be emotional as this destroyed some of my today's work. F you Mozilla. I lost all my tabs opened in other containers. The containers don't work too, so I cannot reopen them. This bug has been known for 3 years, and you did nothing to fix it. You get so much money, and what you do is basically provide a pathetic software (thunderbird) and a nice browser (which you just stopped from working) and you show…
With that said, I've always considered tabs to be volatile state. Browsers make their best effort to e.g. restore the previous session after a crash, but if you want non-volatile browser state, you should use bookmarks.
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#275So, I left Chrome for all the b's they were doing with/to the web. Now Mozilla is fcking it up, too. Which browser to choose now?
No, I'm only half-serious. ;-)
Remember when the Web was mostly about sharing information, browsers didn't silently auto-update nor break in the process of doing so, organisations didn't add invasive "telemetry" to everything, and things would mostly stay working because the pace of change was generally much slower?
Now that the "keep pushing it forward and breaking things" trendchasers seem to have gotten their way, instead we have the constant churn of web development, increasingly bloated sites and JS annoyances, browsers becoming more complex and fragile than OSs, dumbed-down UIs and taking control away from the user --- yes, that includes Mozilla who got to where they are today for their "user freedom respecting" position, and the repulsively ignorant "newer is always better" mentality that's infected even search engines like Google.
Maybe I'm just being overly nostalgic, but incidents like these really put things into perspective.
Re: Update Regarding Add-Ons in Firefox
#276I know Firefox isn't being malicious, but ugh, this seems like the worst possible PR move for this, optics wise. "Hey so uh, we accidentally broke your browser, so you need to opt-in to becoming a guinney pig. But don't worry! You probably were already opted in anyway and just didn't realize it! Also it might take six hours to work."
Re: Update Regarding Add-Ons in Firefox
#277This one will be emotional as this destroyed some of my today's work. F you Mozilla. I lost all my tabs opened in other containers. The containers don't work too, so I cannot reopen them. This bug has been known for 3 years, and you did nothing to fix it. You get so much money, and what you do is basically provide a pathetic software (thunderbird) and a nice browser (which you just stopped from working) and you show…
I lose all tabs occasionally. Browsers aren't perfect, it does happen after a weird crash, or something. It's exceedingly rare, like maybe twice a year. With that said, I've always considered tabs to be volatile state. Browsers make their best effort to e.g. restore the previous session after a crash, but if you want non-volatile browser state, you should use bookmarks.
Btw, I haven't got any Fx crash for the last 3 or 4 years.
I hope an ignorant programmer/manager won't try removing my bookmarks because they lead to a page with an expired certificate.
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#278Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm curious, do you switch at every fuck up? Then it's only a matter of time until you come back to Firefox, or maybe you'll end up making your own web browser?
No, just this one because it took me more than 5 minutes to not find a working fix, and this was such a massive fuck-up that I don't feel like sticking around. I appreciate the condescension of both your comment and the person I initially replied to, but I honestly see your comments as saying, in more words, "Fuck the user." And that's fine, but why don't you just say it? Go ahead and type it, I want you to type what…
Re: Update Regarding Add-Ons in Firefox
#279Is this supposed to affect everything installed? I'm running Firefox 56.0.2 and this only affected addons which I had already disabled, all the other addons are fine... still, am I forced to update to fix this bullshit?
Re: Update Regarding Add-Ons in Firefox
#280Earlier quoted context omitted.
Things might change after install. Its a Good Thing (tm) to periodically recheck, or check revocations. > > I'm not putting words in your mouth [..] Yes, you did: > "So you think [..]"
> Yes, you did: >> "So you think [..]" Um, I ended that sentence with a question mark. Implying a question. But you conveniently left that out of your quote, so amusingly now you're putting words in my mouth. (Although who cares? I don't!) Maybe I should have phrased it "So do you think" but it would have essentially been the same sentence and typing on my ipad is annoying. I was asking you if you thought this was a…