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Update Regarding Add-Ons in Firefox

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Re: Update Regarding Add-Ons in Firefox

#251

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Switch to what? Chrome? Because you don't like having to re-opt-in to studies? That would be ludicrous given Google's privacy track record. Opera? They're owned by a Chinese investment firm now. Edge? MS's whole OS is based on data collection.

Keep guessing.

He has moved to Lynx.

Re: Update Regarding Add-Ons in Firefox

#252
post #236

hmm, i don't seem to have been affected by this bug somehow (my extensions are all still working). i turn off as much phoning home as i can (including turning studies off) and block connections to *.services.mozilla.com any idea why i might not be affected? it may help others who might want to retain control of their firefox browser (chromium-based browsers being non-sequiturs).

I turn on mostly all phone home functionality in Firefox, and also wasn't affected. Apparently the certificate check is only executed once every 24h, so I guess our checks only occurred after a fix was already pushed.

yes, but i also don't have the fix, since i turned off studies. i'm guessing the cert check was blocked. what url does the check attempt to connect to?

Re: Update Regarding Add-Ons in Firefox

#253

hmm, i don't seem to have been affected by this bug somehow (my extensions are all still working). i turn off as much phoning home as i can (including turning studies off) and block connections to *.services.mozilla.com any idea why i might not be affected? it may help others who might want to retain control of their firefox browser (chromium-based browsers being non-sequiturs).

It was the same for me. Firefox 66.0.3 on Xubuntu 19.04. I also turn off a lot of phone-home behaviour. And I never had any problems with extensions getting disabled. I have no idea why I wasn't affected. But frankly, "not being affected" isn't good enough for me. Even if I dodged this bullet I might not dodge the next. I'm looking for an alternative browser. Falkon has been interesting so far. It's a little bare-bon…

One screwup is enough for you to jump ship? Or have there been others? (I'm genuinely curious, not trying to be aggressive.)

I personally don't think all this talk of "Bye-bye firefox" is quite fair (I'm referring to a number of comments on this page, not yours specifically). In my opinion (you may disagree), Mozilla is one of our best and strongest allies in the fight for a fair internet. Their values matter because they still have the user base to back them up. If all of us technical-minded folk jump ship to smaller, boutique browsers at every bug and gaffe, leading to a sort of browser balkanization, then Firefox loses its strength and those smaller browsers aren't impactful enough to be able to resist Chrome/Chromium.

But, maybe your choice of browser is purely utilitarian, and that's totally fine of course.

Re: Update Regarding Add-Ons in Firefox

#254

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Switch to what? Chrome? Because you don't like having to re-opt-in to studies? That would be ludicrous given Google's privacy track record. Opera? They're owned by a Chinese investment firm now. Edge? MS's whole OS is based on data collection.

Keep guessing.

Lynx, Midori, Safari, IE6. Maybe Palemoon, Samsung browser is another possibility. Maxthon was popular for a bit. Maybe you're super 1337 and run in only curl or wget.

Re: Update Regarding Add-Ons in Firefox

#255
post #213

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not putting words in your mouth, you literally said this is a "Good Thing (tm)", because of hypothetical security reasons. Whereas I'm literally saying that this actually broke real privacy extensions, broke peoples software, and badly damaged their reputation. As to your argument about security: doing the check on install instead of all the time, as I suggest is preferable, still protects against MITM and malwar…

Things might change after install. Its a Good Thing (tm) to periodically recheck, or check revocations. > > I'm not putting words in your mouth [..] Yes, you did: > "So you think [..]"

> Yes, you did:

>> "So you think [..]"

Um, I ended that sentence with a question mark. Implying a question. But you conveniently left that out of your quote, so amusingly now you're putting words in my mouth. (Although who cares? I don't!) Maybe I should have phrased it "So do you think" but it would have essentially been the same sentence and typing on my ipad is annoying. I was asking you if you thought this was a good thing for Mozilla. Which you dodged to turn this into a debate about proper etiquette instead of answering the question directly. It was a leading question, sure, but I was making a point.

Re: Update Regarding Add-Ons in Firefox

#256
This one will be emotional as this destroyed some of my today's work.

F you Mozilla. I lost all my tabs opened in other containers. The containers don't work too, so I cannot reopen them.

This bug has been known for 3 years, and you did nothing to fix it. You get so much money, and what you do is basically provide a pathetic software (thunderbird) and a nice browser (which you just stopped from working) and you show me banners asking for more money.

You should be ashamed. 3 years. And no, I'm not going to listen things like "this is open source, you are free to fix it". I will just go and switch to another browser. I need a browser which works, not a one which suddenly decides that my stuff should be broken because all the developers and managers have been ignoring a critical issue for a couple of years.

:( I know, this will be flagged, and removed. I don't care, I just need to get all my tabs in containers back. I have never thought that a browser can just close my tabs because a certificate expired.

Re: Update Regarding Add-Ons in Firefox

#257
Mozilla, what ever the fuck your trying to fix, at least fix the add blockers asap & let us get tat fix before you work for hours on the rest of whatever the helm your doing. My uBlock has been good on my android for years, there is no reason it shouldn't be good now. Your reason for blocking as I've seen is that other develoers may have hacked your shit or done such but if you block our use of our ad blockers then we can just easily get infected all the more. Fix it now please & let us get those working then continue to fix whatever the hell else your see as problematic.

Re: Update Regarding Add-Ons in Firefox

#258
post #18

Instead of enabling studies just click on this link. It installs that specific "study" (hotfix) without installing anything else. https://storage.googleapis.com/moz-fx-normandy-prod-addons/e...

Please, don't tell people to do this. This way computers get infected. People should know that clicking in a random link posted by an anonymous guy on a forum page is one of the worst things they can ever do.

Re: Update Regarding Add-Ons in Firefox

#260

I know Firefox isn't being malicious, but ugh, this seems like the worst possible PR move for this, optics wise. "Hey so uh, we accidentally broke your browser, so you need to opt-in to becoming a guinney pig. But don't worry! You probably were already opted in anyway and just didn't realize it! Also it might take six hours to work."

So that's pretty unfair. 1) They state they are working on a fix for normal, release channel users who don't want to run studies 2) they tell you to temporarily run studies to get the fix within up to 6 six hours (could be faster; set expectation) 3) You can explicitly install nightly or 66.4 before it's pushed if you want a fix now Yes, it's unfortunate, I'd expect them to meet it head on, push a tested fix in a tim…

How do you get these studies or beta version?
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