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People's sense of control over actions is reduced when angry or afraid: study

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Re: People's sense of control over actions is reduced when angry or afraid: study

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You never have "real" control over your own actions because free will is an illusion. Thus, my emotional state tends to rarely get angry compared to when I thought free will was a possibility. Since understanding there isn't any control over anything makes me realize what can a person reasonably blame others or themselves if nobody has any choice over how they came to be or act. I don't necessarily gain control but I'm more functioning in society than before. That's typically the goal for everyone because than we have a better living experience.

Re: People's sense of control over actions is reduced when angry or afraid: study

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You never have "real" control over your own actions because free will is an illusion. Thus, my emotional state tends to rarely get angry compared to when I thought free will was a possibility. Since understanding there isn't any control over anything makes me realize what can a person reasonably blame others or themselves if nobody has any choice over how they came to be or act. I don't necessarily gain control but I…

Why even bother trying to explain something to others if free will is an illusion? What are you relying on to persuade them if they don't have a mind capable of understanding you?

Re: People's sense of control over actions is reduced when angry or afraid: study

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You never have "real" control over your own actions because free will is an illusion. Thus, my emotional state tends to rarely get angry compared to when I thought free will was a possibility. Since understanding there isn't any control over anything makes me realize what can a person reasonably blame others or themselves if nobody has any choice over how they came to be or act. I don't necessarily gain control but I…

> You never have "real" control over your own actions because free will is an illusion.

This is facile, and you certainly haven't proven the absence of free will just bey stating it here.

I believe the best assumption, since we feel as though e have free will, is to behave as though we and other people (and animals) have free will.

But aside from that, the fine article isn't really saying anything new. It's a known thing that anger has a dis-inhibiting effect. IIRC, it bypasses the prefrontal cortex in favour of the limbic system.

This is why so many religions and philosophies (esp Buddhism) warn us about the dangers of acting on our anger.

Anger makes us do ill considered things, and we often harm people and regret it later.

Re: People's sense of control over actions is reduced when angry or afraid: study

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post #4

You never have "real" control over your own actions because free will is an illusion. Thus, my emotional state tends to rarely get angry compared to when I thought free will was a possibility. Since understanding there isn't any control over anything makes me realize what can a person reasonably blame others or themselves if nobody has any choice over how they came to be or act. I don't necessarily gain control but I…

> You never have "real" control over your own actions because free will is an illusion. This is facile, and you certainly haven't proven the absence of free will just bey stating it here. I believe the best assumption, since we feel as though e have free will, is to behave as though we and other people (and animals) have free will. But aside from that, the fine article isn't really saying anything new. It's a known t…

Oh, I thought the article was about psychology and where what we have studied illustrates determinism and where nothing has ever shown free will. I mean even what comes out of neuroscience shows how the brain reacts before we're even aware. Free will is an impossibility, how can oneself make choice or decisions that are unaffected by the external forces exerted upon oneself. One's birth being the "starting point" into reality is all that decides everything until the end.

Re: People's sense of control over actions is reduced when angry or afraid: study

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post #3

You never have "real" control over your own actions because free will is an illusion. Thus, my emotional state tends to rarely get angry compared to when I thought free will was a possibility. Since understanding there isn't any control over anything makes me realize what can a person reasonably blame others or themselves if nobody has any choice over how they came to be or act. I don't necessarily gain control but I…

Why even bother trying to explain something to others if free will is an illusion? What are you relying on to persuade them if they don't have a mind capable of understanding you?

Some of HN understands hard determinism and once in awhile I see an interesting post. Otherwise it's just a comment triggered from reading the article. I enjoy it.

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You never have "real" control over your own actions because free will is an illusion. Thus, my emotional state tends to rarely get angry compared to when I thought free will was a possibility. Since understanding there isn't any control over anything makes me realize what can a person reasonably blame others or themselves if nobody has any choice over how they came to be or act. I don't necessarily gain control but I…

Why even bother trying to explain something to others if free will is an illusion? What are you relying on to persuade them if they don't have a mind capable of understanding you?

It's not like they had a choice…

Re: People's sense of control over actions is reduced when angry or afraid: study

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why even bother trying to explain something to others if free will is an illusion? What are you relying on to persuade them if they don't have a mind capable of understanding you?

It's not like they had a choice…

This as well.
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