U.S. Accuses China of Detaining Up to 3M Muslims in 'Concentration Camps'
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#2Oh wow, it would be terrible for a government to unethically detain Muslims.
Re: U.S. Accuses China of Detaining Up to 3M Muslims in 'Concentration Camps'
#3Meanwhile, the US military is planning how to deal with so-called "terrorists," many of whom were peasants sold to warlords to collect bounties, to die of old-age in Gitmo. Also, ripping children from their parents in migrant and asylum-seekers concentration camps. Pot, meet kettle.
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#4China should finally get reprimanded
Re: U.S. Accuses China of Detaining Up to 3M Muslims in 'Concentration Camps'
#5Meanwhile, the US military is planning how to deal with so-called "terrorists," many of whom were peasants sold to warlords to collect bounties, to die of old-age in Gitmo. Also, ripping children from their parents in migrant and asylum-seekers concentration camps. Pot, meet kettle.
China: let's lock up these people because of their race or beliefs
US: we need to lock these people up because (gitmo) they're terrorists, or (border) they committed a felony.
Yep - they're completely equivalent!
Re: U.S. Accuses China of Detaining Up to 3M Muslims in 'Concentration Camps'
#6Meanwhile, the US military is planning how to deal with so-called "terrorists," many of whom were peasants sold to warlords to collect bounties, to die of old-age in Gitmo. Also, ripping children from their parents in migrant and asylum-seekers concentration camps. Pot, meet kettle.
Its a story needing coverage, regardless of relative severity.
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#7Meanwhile, the US military is planning how to deal with so-called "terrorists," many of whom were peasants sold to warlords to collect bounties, to die of old-age in Gitmo. Also, ripping children from their parents in migrant and asylum-seekers concentration camps. Pot, meet kettle.
China: let's lock up these people because of their race or beliefs US: we need to lock these people up because (gitmo) they're terrorists, or (border) they committed a felony. Yep - they're completely equivalent!
They'll bury it from HN front-page just by making adversarial comments, and that's the goal.
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#8Meanwhile, the US military is planning how to deal with so-called "terrorists," many of whom were peasants sold to warlords to collect bounties, to die of old-age in Gitmo. Also, ripping children from their parents in migrant and asylum-seekers concentration camps. Pot, meet kettle.
While I agree both of those things are repulsive - the scales do not match up. There are 3 million people in camps in china, vs about 1000 at the height of gitmo. The border camps come a little closer in raw numbers - somewhere around 0.5 millions people per year, but they are detained for short periods of time. Estimates vary but we’re talking a few days.
Scale matters. Don’t try to downplay how completely fucked up these camps are.
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#9I actually find the evolution of this blatant, shameless propaganda amusing.
You could actually observe, in real-time, the ramping up of accusations and headline hysterics in sequence:
1. 50k muslims detained
2. 100k muslims detained and put into re-education camps
3. 500k muslims arrested and put into concentration camps!
4. One million muslims torn out of homes and put into concentration camps and getting their organs harvested!
5. Three million muslims torn out of homes and put into concentration camps, getting organs harvested and being brutally tortured!
It's easy to see how Americans were so readily misled about Iraq.
Re: U.S. Accuses China of Detaining Up to 3M Muslims in 'Concentration Camps'
#10I actually find the evolution of this blatant, shameless propaganda amusing. You could actually observe, in real-time, the ramping up of accusations and headline hysterics in sequence: 1. 50k muslims detained 2. 100k muslims detained and put into re-education camps 3. 500k muslims arrested and put into concentration camps! 4. One million muslims torn out of homes and put into concentration camps and getting their org…
Is it true, though? You are arguing that its baseless propaganda without refuting anything. Just that the evolution of the claims has gotten more severe. The best argument if so is just the truth. Link sources and publish things showing there really aren't 3 million people detained or that it's not a camp-style thing. The problem with Iraq is that Saddam simply could have told the truth and let UN inspectors in, but he often stonewalled and acted in a way that made it hard to not worry what he was doing...and oh, the whole invading another country thing.