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Re: Repositories held for ransom by using valid credentials

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Also GitHub users are affected. By the time of writing 379 public GitHub repos have been compromised: https://github.com/search?o=desc&q=1ES14c7qLb5CYhLMUekctxLgc...

I like this threat for open source software published on GH -- If we dont receive your payment in the next 10 Days, we will make your code public or use them otherwise.

(At least for public repos) Isn’t this almost a compliment? (Having another person host your code and use it?) xD

Re: Repositories held for ransom by using valid credentials

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Re GitHub keeping unreachable data, if I understand it right, isn't that GitHub painting a giant target on their back? Wouldn't that that imply every secret accidentally committed and then 'deleted' is still accessible, when one would expect it not to be? It's one thing to have your source code in the wild, but pairing it up with thought-to-be-deleted secrets would be an absolute disaster. Certainly one should not ev…

> Wouldn't that that imply every secret accidentally committed and then 'deleted' is still accessible This should be a moot point because anyone (in IT) should realize that an accidentally committed secret is now 100% public for all eternity and needs to be rendered irrelevant to restore secure operations.

Security isn't rendered in absolutes. We have to assume some sheepish new employee somewhere is scared of approaching management about a mistake they made committing a secret, so they reverse the commit and pretend nothing ever happened.

We have to try and mitigate damage from lapses in communication and protocol like that.

Re: Repositories held for ransom by using valid credentials

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This tendency of Hacker News users to want to monetize everything is sickening.

I wonder if one could monetize this tendency.

Monetyzer: The world is your oyster, it's about time you start collecting pearls.

Re: Repositories held for ransom by using valid credentials

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Weird aside question: I notice the article says "at approximately 10:00pm GMT". Can someone explain why GMT might be chosen as a reference point here? Is there something I'm missing about the usage of GMT (and not UTC). It just seems particularly odd given that GMT is not (to my knowledge) actually being used as a concrete time-zone at the minute (BST is in effect for daylight savings).

Re: Repositories held for ransom by using valid credentials

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> We believe that no data has been lost, unless the [...] GitLab copy was the only one. One difference between how GitLab and GitHub run their infrastructure is that GitLab doesn't keep reflogs, and uses git's default "gc" settings. As a result they won't have the data in question anymore in many cases[1]. Well, I don't 100% know that for sure, but it's the default configuration of their software, and I'm assuming th…

This tendency of Hacker News users to want to monetize everything is sickening.

Some of us have bills to pay. This generally isn’t a hobby, but a profession. Until rainbows and good vibes pay the rent, then yes, monetization is important.

Re: Repositories held for ransom by using valid credentials

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> We believe that no data has been lost, unless the [...] GitLab copy was the only one. One difference between how GitLab and GitHub run their infrastructure is that GitLab doesn't keep reflogs, and uses git's default "gc" settings. As a result they won't have the data in question anymore in many cases[1]. Well, I don't 100% know that for sure, but it's the default configuration of their software, and I'm assuming th…

This tendency of Hacker News users to want to monetize everything is sickening.

Because software companies never charge for features?

Re: Repositories held for ransom by using valid credentials

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Weird aside question: I notice the article says "at approximately 10:00pm GMT". Can someone explain why GMT might be chosen as a reference point here? Is there something I'm missing about the usage of GMT (and not UTC). It just seems particularly odd given that GMT is not (to my knowledge) actually being used as a concrete time-zone at the minute (BST is in effect for daylight savings).

In the UK, GMT is often used to refer to "the current British time" both GMT/BST. I've seen the same in the US where people say EST but mean EDT.

Re: Repositories held for ransom by using valid credentials

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Weird aside question: I notice the article says "at approximately 10:00pm GMT". Can someone explain why GMT might be chosen as a reference point here? Is there something I'm missing about the usage of GMT (and not UTC). It just seems particularly odd given that GMT is not (to my knowledge) actually being used as a concrete time-zone at the minute (BST is in effect for daylight savings).

I usually attribute it to mild ignorance, not in a bad way.

For a long time GMT was a good reference point. Times have changed.

I used to work with a gentleman who would always schedule meetings on the phone as:

> Great, let's put that on the schedule for 2:00 o'clock Eastern Standard Time.

There was always a bit of officiousness to his tone and I think he just liked the idea of being precise.

And he certainly was precise. He was also off by an hour for half the year. Somehow no one ever missed a meeting, though.

I always sat on the other side of the room and ground my teeth.

Re: Repositories held for ransom by using valid credentials

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post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Wouldn't that that imply every secret accidentally committed and then 'deleted' is still accessible This should be a moot point because anyone (in IT) should realize that an accidentally committed secret is now 100% public for all eternity and needs to be rendered irrelevant to restore secure operations.

Security isn't rendered in absolutes. We have to assume some sheepish new employee somewhere is scared of approaching management about a mistake they made committing a secret, so they reverse the commit and pretend nothing ever happened. We have to try and mitigate damage from lapses in communication and protocol like that.

In either case, the secret is already out whether the user wants to admit to it or not
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