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All extensions disabled due to expiration of intermediate signing cert

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Re: All extensions disabled due to expiration of intermediate signing cert

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post #390

What kind of idiot thought that the add-ons I have personally installed on my browser need to have a capability to be remotely disabled despite literally nothing being changed. This is absolutely inexcusable. I want to see everyone being responsible for this "verified add-ons" fiasco fired from the team (after they roll it back of course).

Yes. I mean bugs can happen but this wouldn't be so bad if they had provided a simple way to allow unsigned add-ons in the first place. You can't even create a simple personal add-on for yourself without uploading it to mozilla first. That sucks. Please let me use my computer how I want.

Re: All extensions disabled due to expiration of intermediate signing cert

#432
post #419

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly. If me/firefox has verified the signature (or approved the download) when downloading or updating the addon, that should be all that's necessary. Why does firefox have to check signatures constantly?

in case it was revoked? Seems fairly reasonable approach

Disabling with no option of user override is not reasonable. It only creates unnecessary dependency on third parties.

When product recalls happen, the manufacturer isn't taking your product away by force.

Re: All extensions disabled due to expiration of intermediate signing cert

#433
post #409

If everyone's add-ons are disabled, I wonder why mine are not. My computer has been running over night (coincidentally, first time in years) and my add-ons are intact. Does it take a browser restart? Or might I have a setting that prevents this from happening? My system time is correct. Edit: am on Firefox 66, Linux (Debian Buster/testing), using Firefox from Mozilla directly (not through repositories), and my intern…

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Re: All extensions disabled due to expiration of intermediate signing cert

#434

There have been major organizational problems at Mozilla for a long time that precipitated this. Many of us saw something like this coming, saw gaps and unclear responsibilities, reported these gaps and confusions up the chain, and were reprimanded and financially penalized for asking the tough questions. The questions were never answered, and we all quit, were fired, or lost motivation as a result. This is a tech pr…

You basically just described any sufficiently large organization. Complaining is not helping anyone in these situations, the only thing you can do to change things is to go ahead and try to change things. Reporting things up the chain hardly ever works because the chain is too busy with their own issues and politics. You have to make it worth their while.

>the only thing you can do to change things is to go ahead and try to change things

how? Reporting up the chain is THE way to change things. When it doesn't work what are you supposed to do?

Re: All extensions disabled due to expiration of intermediate signing cert

#435
I have disabled signature checks in Firefox because otherwise it is impossible to install a private extension without uploading the source code to Mozilla.

This is how you allow unsigned extensions in Firefox on Arch Linux, the same files can be edited on Windows and macOS, restart the browser after changes:

  sudo tee /usr/lib/firefox/defaults/pref/config-prefs.js &>/dev/null /dev/null 
This method also works for the stable version of Firefox.

Re: All extensions disabled due to expiration of intermediate signing cert

#436
post #409

If everyone's add-ons are disabled, I wonder why mine are not. My computer has been running over night (coincidentally, first time in years) and my add-ons are intact. Does it take a browser restart? Or might I have a setting that prevents this from happening? My system time is correct. Edit: am on Firefox 66, Linux (Debian Buster/testing), using Firefox from Mozilla directly (not through repositories), and my intern…

Same here. I've restarted Firefox several times and even manually checked for add-on updates and they are still working. Same on Android. However, I'm not able to install new Add-Ons (I get the "download failed" error). I'm in Germany, maybe that has something to do with it...?

EDIT: Android disabled Add-Ons when I switched from WiFi to mobile connection.

Re: All extensions disabled due to expiration of intermediate signing cert

#437

There have been major organizational problems at Mozilla for a long time that precipitated this. Many of us saw something like this coming, saw gaps and unclear responsibilities, reported these gaps and confusions up the chain, and were reprimanded and financially penalized for asking the tough questions. The questions were never answered, and we all quit, were fired, or lost motivation as a result. This is a tech pr…

If you're going to quit anyway, and not saying this is a good idea, what prevents you literally going and yelling at these idiots demanding answers as to why they are not doing their jobs?

So many people have done this. Watch videos of past Mozilla All Hands meetings. You see the questions asked, you see the leaders dodge, and you see that soon after the askers are gone and leaders say- you have nothing to be afraid of, you don’t need to ask questions anonymously. “Executives” at 1000 person Mozilla are so distant from the workers, and middle managers listen to executives, not staff. It is so sad because Mozilla staff are smart, caring people who love the web, but they are powerless and afraid in the org today.

Re: All extensions disabled due to expiration of intermediate signing cert

#438

It's pathetic to see the attitude demonstrated by Mozilla support on this. diox commented 4 hours ago I'm locking this like I did in #851 because no new information is being added. We're aware and we're working on it. This conversation has been locked as spam and limited to collaborators. [1] Bug 1548973 (armagadd-on-2.0) All extensions disabled due to expiration of intermediate signing cert NEW Unassigned (Needinfo…

Don't exaggerate. It's a critical bug now and they are working on it.

Let them work on it

Re: All extensions disabled due to expiration of intermediate signing cert

#439
post #390

What kind of idiot thought that the add-ons I have personally installed on my browser need to have a capability to be remotely disabled despite literally nothing being changed. This is absolutely inexcusable. I want to see everyone being responsible for this "verified add-ons" fiasco fired from the team (after they roll it back of course).

Exactly. If me/firefox has verified the signature (or approved the download) when downloading or updating the addon, that should be all that's necessary. Why does firefox have to check signatures constantly?

I worked on a code signing system a number of years ago and it was surprising the degree to which I had to rearrange the logic and the tool chain in order to get high code coverage on all the failure modes.

IIRC one of the tools wouldn’t let me work with expired certs. I can’t recall now whether I fixed that or made carts that expire in ten seconds and just waited it out.

Anyway, a number of people weren’t even sure why I was going through the trouble. It’s easier to get something wrong than it should be (super obtuse APIs) and you don’t always get enough support or pushback to get everything absolutely right.

Re: All extensions disabled due to expiration of intermediate signing cert

#440

There have been major organizational problems at Mozilla for a long time that precipitated this. Many of us saw something like this coming, saw gaps and unclear responsibilities, reported these gaps and confusions up the chain, and were reprimanded and financially penalized for asking the tough questions. The questions were never answered, and we all quit, were fired, or lost motivation as a result. This is a tech pr…

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