Typing in Yiddish
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Typing in Yiddish
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#2It's interesting to see that the old yiddish typewriter layout is actually not identical to the modern hebrew typing layout.
While they're almost identical, about 5 letters have been swapped: ח, א, ס, ף, and ב is just removed from where it is in the modern layout, and moved to the top right, in a location that modern keyboard's don't have (to the right of where P would be, in QWERTY).
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#4It's interesting to see that the old yiddish typewriter layout is actually not identical to the modern hebrew typing layout. While they're almost identical, about 5 letters have been swapped: ח, א, ס, ף, and ב is just removed from where it is in the modern layout, and moved to the top right, in a location that modern keyboard's don't have (to the right of where P would be, in QWERTY).
Well of course it's not identical - they were assembled independently (this one by some random schmoe in New York) optimized for different letter and digram frequencies in different languages. I'm actually impressed by how similar they are.
Another reason for difference, aside from frequency differences in the two languages, is that this keyboard distinguishes some characters that aren't on modern Hebrew keyboards. For example, there are separate אָ and א, בּ and ב, etc.
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#5It's interesting to see that the old yiddish typewriter layout is actually not identical to the modern hebrew typing layout. While they're almost identical, about 5 letters have been swapped: ח, א, ס, ף, and ב is just removed from where it is in the modern layout, and moved to the top right, in a location that modern keyboard's don't have (to the right of where P would be, in QWERTY).
Well of course it's not identical - they were assembled independently (this one by some random schmoe in New York) optimized for different letter and digram frequencies in different languages. I'm actually impressed by how similar they are. Another reason for difference, aside from frequency differences in the two languages, is that this keyboard distinguishes some characters that aren't on modern Hebrew keyboards. F…
And double yod and double vov. Microsoft still had a proper Yiddish keyboard map available. Apple doesn’t.
Re: Typing in Yiddish
#6It's interesting to see that the old yiddish typewriter layout is actually not identical to the modern hebrew typing layout. While they're almost identical, about 5 letters have been swapped: ח, א, ס, ף, and ב is just removed from where it is in the modern layout, and moved to the top right, in a location that modern keyboard's don't have (to the right of where P would be, in QWERTY).
Being a Germanic language that has vowels, Yiddish should not have the same keyboard layout as a Semitic language.
Re: Typing in Yiddish
#7It's interesting to see that the old yiddish typewriter layout is actually not identical to the modern hebrew typing layout. While they're almost identical, about 5 letters have been swapped: ח, א, ס, ף, and ב is just removed from where it is in the modern layout, and moved to the top right, in a location that modern keyboard's don't have (to the right of where P would be, in QWERTY).
Being a Germanic language that has vowels, Yiddish should not have the same keyboard layout as a Semitic language.
Yiddish really has nothing to do with Hebrew other than the script and borrowed words which are forced into it. Sort of like Farsi and Arabic.
It’s unfortunate that because of the number advantage Eastern Europeans (and historical events) Jewish culture was completely altered.
Authentic Jewish culture and traditions, which were dominant before the holocaust and are so much part of the Middle East and of course deeply influenced by, and influencing on, Islam and Arabic, are obscured.
Some suggest the difference is more than tradition, and we are in fact separate people.
Many Israelis still find it offensive when foreigners ask them if Yiddish is spoken in Israel. It is not. Zionism tried so very hard to burry it and the culture it represented.
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#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
Being a Germanic language that has vowels, Yiddish should not have the same keyboard layout as a Semitic language.
Yiddish really has nothing to do with Hebrew other than the script and borrowed words which are forced into it. Sort of like Farsi and Arabic. It’s unfortunate that because of the number advantage Eastern Europeans (and historical events) Jewish culture was completely altered. Authentic Jewish culture and traditions, which were dominant before the holocaust and are so much part of the Middle East and of course deeply…
> Many Israelis still find it offensive when foreigners ask them if Yiddish is spoken in Israel. It is not.
Yiddish is spoken in Israel by significant parts of the Ashkenazi Ultra-Orthodox community.
The number of speakers is probably in the low hundreds of thousands.
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#9Assimil have an excellent Yiddish language course.
I would like to one day, be able to read Isaac Bashevis Singer in the original.
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#10Oh my. I'm the maker of the only-cross platform Yiddish keyboard (well, macOS, Windows, Linux). I've made variants of QWERTY and the Israeli keyboard and they've been well received but life got in the way, they've suffered from bitrot, I had to take my site down,[0] people have asked me to put it back up and its been nagging me on my to do list for ages.
This post has given me resolve to sort it out today!
Also, I'd never heard of this Jonas and I'm going to add his variant too.
[0] https://web.archive.org/web/20141218093006/http://shretl.org...