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Re: Pornhub wants to buy Tumblr

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Post by r3bl »

tdb7893 wrote: post #62
wesammikhail wrote: post #22

Off topic: I am genuinely curious, why doesn´t Pornhub create a Youtube competitor? it is probably the best positioned company on earth to do so. Any info as to why they haven´t done it or why it would be bad idea for them to do so?

Starting something like a YouTube competitor would be a PR nightmare. How profitable is YouTube for Google that it makes sense to launch a competitor?

Does YouTube need to be profitable? Alphabet is big enough that they could afford to operate a few services at a loss.

It's certainly something to keep in mind during the market research phase, but I don't think this means that all the possible competitors are destined to lose money if they make an attempt at competing.

Re: Pornhub wants to buy Tumblr

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Post by acct1771 »

agumonkey wrote: post #85
Mirioron wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it worth it to compete with YouTube though? We've heard about how YouTube didn't make Google money in the past. Now we even had news about how the way they handled YouTube caused the evaluation of the company to drop by $70 billion. So the question is whether it would be worth it to even try.

Maybe worth a try. Sometimes one business fails to find the right recipe/market but another might very well do.

I Think we're approaching a time where it will be honourable to use a competitor to a shit behemoth, and will engage a following more.

Re: Pornhub wants to buy Tumblr

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Post by Zancarius »

80386 wrote: post #138
thrwaway190503 wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

do you (or does anyone here) know why Pornhub isn't also filled with non-pornographic content? Is it hard to publish on it? Do they "censor" non-pornographic content? I mean that it would be a natural place for people to publish all kinds of videos if they didn't like another video platform and didn't mind having their videos surrounded by pornography, and especially if they didn't care about monetization. but it doe…

Some gun vloggers were talking about moving to a porn site after Youtube banned them, but I don't know if anything came of it. There's also a Pornhub meme community. Brightly colored videos of dancing Shrek heads and so on - on Pornhub! But I don't think there are many non-pornographic content creators who want to publish to a porn site.

InRange TV (Ian from Forgotten Weapons and a couple other guys) posted a couple videos there during the threat of bans from YouTube. I don't know if they've posted any others since they were never banned and their audience on YT is so much larger. It'd be interesting to see if the videos are still up or if they were removed.

Re: Pornhub wants to buy Tumblr

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Post by a1369209993 »

Angostura wrote: post #39

If there’s one thing PornHub is good at, it’s generating positive PR for itself. I’m always very impressed how much of Reddit - often very skeptic all about corporate manipulation- will roll over to have its tummy tickled by Pornhub.

I think it's same phenomenon that benefitted Google pre-turning-evil. Redditors - and most other netizens - hate corporations for their actions and shared values, so if you make a big show of shitting all over one stereotypical corporate value (pandering to moral guardians or being evil in general), people are much more likely to belive you when you claim (or imply) that you don't care about other corporate values.

There's some overcorrection due to wishful thinking and overestimating the difficulty of lying, but the underlying reasoning is mostly valid.

Re: Pornhub wants to buy Tumblr

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Post by thrwaway190503 »

Zancarius wrote: post #153
80386 wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some gun vloggers were talking about moving to a porn site after Youtube banned them, but I don't know if anything came of it. There's also a Pornhub meme community. Brightly colored videos of dancing Shrek heads and so on - on Pornhub! But I don't think there are many non-pornographic content creators who want to publish to a porn site.

InRange TV (Ian from Forgotten Weapons and a couple other guys) posted a couple videos there during the threat of bans from YouTube. I don't know if they've posted any others since they were never banned and their audience on YT is so much larger. It'd be interesting to see if the videos are still up or if they were removed.

I just searched for "InRange TV" and just saw a page full of porn only. So I guess PH removes non-pornographic content.

Re: Pornhub wants to buy Tumblr

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Post by skinnymuch »

mtgx wrote: post #113
no1youknowz wrote: post #21

If I were Pornhub, I'd really low-ball them. After all Verizon wrote down the purchase by 30%? [0] and I'm sure they just want rid by now. So between 10% - 50% is a good offer. On Pornhubs side, it's essentially a steal. They could very well foster a good atmosphere when it comes to porn and then offer through their mindgeek advertising platform access to Tumblr for their marketing affiliates. These marketing affilia…

Verizon wrote off the $5 billion Yahoo purchase, and basically values it at $200 million now. https://edition.cnn.com/2018/12/11/media/verizon-oath-valuat... So much for Verizon's content empire. And to think this was the reason they began putting super-cookies into everyone's computers. Good riddance!

It doesn’t specify exactly what they value Yahoo at. Just that the brand value of all of Oath is $200M now. Brand value isn’t all value.

Re: Pornhub wants to buy Tumblr

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Post by Lowkeyloki »

jlarocco wrote: post #73
Lowkeyloki wrote: post #37

I was discussing companies who use Tumblr for official communication, like System76 and NPM, on another story earlier this week, and how it's cringy and not a good look IMHO. (My comment was flagged for some reason despite having 5 points and 8 replies. How does this site work?) I hope PornHub does buy Tumblr! Can you imagine how quickly all the corporate blogs would scramble off of the platform to avoid association…

I don't think most people associate Tumblr with porn. If you weren't searching for it, you weren't likely to find it. I used Tumblr, and didn't know it was used for porn until the complaining when Verizon banned it.

My point is not that Tumblr is necessarily all porn in terms of content. It's that if it's owned by a porn company, other companies wouldn't want to be associated with it.

Re: Pornhub wants to buy Tumblr

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Post by Lowkeyloki »

imgabe wrote: post #53
Lowkeyloki wrote: post #37

I was discussing companies who use Tumblr for official communication, like System76 and NPM, on another story earlier this week, and how it's cringy and not a good look IMHO. (My comment was flagged for some reason despite having 5 points and 8 replies. How does this site work?) I hope PornHub does buy Tumblr! Can you imagine how quickly all the corporate blogs would scramble off of the platform to avoid association…

Why is it cringy? It's an easy way to host a blog. I'd rather any company focus on their main business rather than futz around with blog hosting.

It's cringy because it's unprofessional and amateurish. Not to mention that you only have a certain amount of control over your content and hence your SEO.

For example, how would you like it if "beyoncescock" or "dildoreo" (both real usernames, by the way) were to reblog your serious announcement from your serious company? Now those usernames are associated with your company's name when you search for it on the web.

Re: Pornhub wants to buy Tumblr

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Post by Lowkeyloki »

Lowkeyloki wrote: post #37

I was discussing companies who use Tumblr for official communication, like System76 and NPM, on another story earlier this week, and how it's cringy and not a good look IMHO. (My comment was flagged for some reason despite having 5 points and 8 replies. How does this site work?) I hope PornHub does buy Tumblr! Can you imagine how quickly all the corporate blogs would scramble off of the platform to avoid association…

People in the replies are missing my point. It's not that Tumblr's content is porn or that Tumblr is associated with porn _right now_. It's that Tumblr will absolutely be associated with porn if a porn company buys it. And these various companies will abandon ship in order to avoid association with a porn company.
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