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Re: Pornhub wants to buy Tumblr

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Post by jsnider3 » Fri, May 03, 2019, 5:55 PM UTC

wesammikhail wrote: post #22

Off topic: I am genuinely curious, why doesn´t Pornhub create a Youtube competitor? it is probably the best positioned company on earth to do so. Any info as to why they haven´t done it or why it would be bad idea for them to do so?

PornHub is a Youtube competitor, as long as you want porn. Trying to expand beyond that seems like it would be off brand.

Re: Pornhub wants to buy Tumblr

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Post by freewilly1040 » Fri, May 03, 2019, 5:56 PM UTC

wesammikhail wrote: post #22

Off topic: I am genuinely curious, why doesn´t Pornhub create a Youtube competitor? it is probably the best positioned company on earth to do so. Any info as to why they haven´t done it or why it would be bad idea for them to do so?

Assuming you are wondering why they don't create a non-porn video site, the reason is that these sites live off ad revenue, and mainstream advertisers don't want their brand associated with porn.

Re: Pornhub wants to buy Tumblr

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Post by peterwwillis » Fri, May 03, 2019, 5:57 PM UTC

nojvek wrote: post #25

0xbadcafebee wrote: post #11

It's bizarre that it's legal for me to look at pictures of a naked person, but effectively illegal to use technology to do so, just because advertising is subject to the whims of a moralistic and prejudicial minority.

I think it’s the minors that are illegal and that’s what Verizon is afraid of. Adult sites are perfectly legal. Also US is a very religious country (some parts) compared to other western nations. So that’s where some of this comes from.

It's really just the moralistic people pressuring advertisers. Minors can find a way to get their hands on a Playboy, but we don't stop selling Playboy in shops just because that can happen.

People interact online through a select few pieces of tech: smart phone apps, Facebook, Instagram, Tumblr, Twitter. Just saying "adult sites exist" is like telling people to drive over to the wrong side of town and shuffle into a seedy porn theater. The malware-laced pop-up ads, and the lack of creative, multifaceted sexual expression, is what happens when you effectively banish a form a culture from the commons.

Re: Pornhub wants to buy Tumblr

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Post by freewilly1040 » Fri, May 03, 2019, 5:57 PM UTC

stcredzero wrote: post #18

I remember one of my teachers in grade school speaking out against the Moral Majority and other pro-censorship types in the 80's. The quote she was up in arms about was something along the lines of how, "We must constrain the imaginations of our children." Today's problems have nothing to do with people reading, imagining, creating, and thinking. Problems in 2019 have to do with people engaging specifically in groupt…

The story of tumblr is really not about free speech suppression. They had a mix of explicit and non-explicit content, and had to choose one to decide what kind of advertisers to pursue. They chose non-explicit and it didn't work.

Re: Pornhub wants to buy Tumblr

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Post by modwilliam » Fri, May 03, 2019, 5:57 PM UTC

wesammikhail wrote: post #22

Off topic: I am genuinely curious, why doesn´t Pornhub create a Youtube competitor? it is probably the best positioned company on earth to do so. Any info as to why they haven´t done it or why it would be bad idea for them to do so?

Why is it the best positioned company on earth to do so?

Re: Pornhub wants to buy Tumblr

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Post by HNLurker2 » Fri, May 03, 2019, 6:00 PM UTC

modwilliam wrote: post #35

wesammikhail wrote: post #22

Off topic: I am genuinely curious, why doesn´t Pornhub create a Youtube competitor? it is probably the best positioned company on earth to do so. Any info as to why they haven´t done it or why it would be bad idea for them to do so?

Why is it the best positioned company on earth to do so?

1. YouTube is being an * with content creators (See MonkeyJones ban and other creator permantly removed) 2. YouTube rewind was a mess 3. Competitors are better for consumers (and many competitors aren't in position to defeat YouTube)

Re: Pornhub wants to buy Tumblr

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Post by Lowkeyloki » Fri, May 03, 2019, 6:02 PM UTC

I was discussing companies who use Tumblr for official communication, like System76 and NPM, on another story earlier this week, and how it's cringy and not a good look IMHO. (My comment was flagged for some reason despite having 5 points and 8 replies. How does this site work?)

I hope PornHub does buy Tumblr! Can you imagine how quickly all the corporate blogs would scramble off of the platform to avoid association with a porn site!?

Re: Pornhub wants to buy Tumblr

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Post by isoskeles » Fri, May 03, 2019, 6:02 PM UTC

modwilliam wrote: post #35

wesammikhail wrote: post #22

Off topic: I am genuinely curious, why doesn´t Pornhub create a Youtube competitor? it is probably the best positioned company on earth to do so. Any info as to why they haven´t done it or why it would be bad idea for them to do so?

Why is it the best positioned company on earth to do so?

Because it probably has the knowledge and infrastructure in place to do so. At least, that's what I inferred from the statement.

Re: Pornhub wants to buy Tumblr

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Post by Angostura » Fri, May 03, 2019, 6:07 PM UTC

If there’s one thing PornHub is good at, it’s generating positive PR for itself. I’m always very impressed how much of Reddit - often very skeptic all about corporate manipulation- will roll over to have its tummy tickled by Pornhub.

Re: Pornhub wants to buy Tumblr

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Post by stevenwoo » Fri, May 03, 2019, 6:07 PM UTC

olivermarks wrote: post #30

pornhub is one of Mindgeek's properties. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MindGeek I've never understood their business model - they seem to host endless illegally uploaded porn yet more and more porn seems to be being created. Not clear where the money is made ultimately. Mindgeek dominate the online porn world which gets huge traffic. https://www.pornhub.com/insights/2018-year-in-review Tumblr was historically another…

I thought Slate or someone did a story on this - by making porn so easily available they make the market for performers low, they can lowball the creatives who appear on camera/make the videos, and also make money on the advertising on the illegally uploaded porn.

https://slate.com/technology/2014/10/mindgeek-porn-monopoly-...