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Re: AI tech generates entire bodies of people who don't exist

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Post by nopinsight »

areoform wrote: post #24

While AI models might replace catalogue models for small labels that are starting out (maybe) and for e-commerce companies (definitely). I highly doubt it that they will replace real models for large companies and fashion boutiques now or ever. Because what people (women and men) are buying is aspiration wrapped in dead plant fibers. The reason why I buy a dress from Hervé Leger is because I want to look like old sch…

I agree with some of your well-written points.

Virtual influencers may still work well for some brands/purposes. Here is the digitally generated Colonel from KFC:

https://www.adweek.com/creativity/kfc-created-a-virtual-infl...

Re: AI tech generates entire bodies of people who don't exist

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areoform wrote: post #24

While AI models might replace catalogue models for small labels that are starting out (maybe) and for e-commerce companies (definitely). I highly doubt it that they will replace real models for large companies and fashion boutiques now or ever. Because what people (women and men) are buying is aspiration wrapped in dead plant fibers. The reason why I buy a dress from Hervé Leger is because I want to look like old sch…

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Re: AI tech generates entire bodies of people who don't exist

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areoform wrote: post #24

While AI models might replace catalogue models for small labels that are starting out (maybe) and for e-commerce companies (definitely). I highly doubt it that they will replace real models for large companies and fashion boutiques now or ever. Because what people (women and men) are buying is aspiration wrapped in dead plant fibers. The reason why I buy a dress from Hervé Leger is because I want to look like old sch…

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Re: AI tech generates entire bodies of people who don't exist

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Post by growlist »

GuiA wrote: post #36
areoform wrote: post #24

While AI models might replace catalogue models for small labels that are starting out (maybe) and for e-commerce companies (definitely). I highly doubt it that they will replace real models for large companies and fashion boutiques now or ever. Because what people (women and men) are buying is aspiration wrapped in dead plant fibers. The reason why I buy a dress from Hervé Leger is because I want to look like old sch…

Fully agreed. One side effect of that is that while modeling has always been very hard to pierce into, at least there are modeling opportunities for non celebrities. As the practice of using AI to generate models for all but higher end stuff grows, it will get harder and harder to pierce into. It’ll go from an industry with tens of thousands of workers - some paid a lot, some much less - to just a few hundreds of hig…

Well, at least they have their looks to fall back on.

Re: AI tech generates entire bodies of people who don't exist

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Post by [deleted] »

Iv wrote: post #58
Nition wrote: post #48

Is this really generating anything new or is it essentially just morphing between existing photos that it's been trained on? It would be interesting to take some of these GAN demos and write a utility where for each output, have it find the closest-matching training input, and see how similar it is.

Typically these animations that look like morphings are generated by auto-encoders. Contrary to automatically generated morphings, you'll notice that all intermediate person is realistic. I don't think GAN work that way (I haven't followed it last year though). My understanding is that a GAN simply tries to determine if an image is generated or authentic. I suppose they used one there. One way to do what you propose…

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Re: AI tech generates entire bodies of people who don't exist

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Post by jplayer01 »

j7ake wrote: post #74
areoform wrote: post #24

While AI models might replace catalogue models for small labels that are starting out (maybe) and for e-commerce companies (definitely). I highly doubt it that they will replace real models for large companies and fashion boutiques now or ever. Because what people (women and men) are buying is aspiration wrapped in dead plant fibers. The reason why I buy a dress from Hervé Leger is because I want to look like old sch…

You make a good point and I think the upper-end of models will continue to be in demand (besides, these computationally generated images were trained at least in part from human photos). However, if I were just an above-average model, where the main function is to display clothes rather than weave a narrative, I might be worried about this technology because many use-cases of models may be in jeopardy from this techn…

You know, I always figured menial and low-skill jobs would be phased out first by AI. I never realized modeling might be one of the early casualties.

Re: AI tech generates entire bodies of people who don't exist

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mirimir wrote: post #71
jjjensen90 wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do wonder if we'll ever reach a liberal enough society to be OK with machine-generated porn of all types, especially those taboo or illegal now (child pornography, sadism, zoophilia, etc). I could foresee it being banned before it even gets commercialized, which in my opinion would be unfortunate because I could see it as the methadone of porn to the "real stuff's" heroin.

That's already illegal in the US:[0] > Child pornography under federal law is defined as any visual depiction of sexually explicit conduct involving a minor (someone under 18 years of age). Visual depictions include photographs, videos, digital or computer generated images indistinguishable from an actual minor, and images created, adapted, or modified, but appear to depict an identifiable, actual minor. But that's n…

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Re: AI tech generates entire bodies of people who don't exist

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Post by IshKebab »

acconrad wrote: post #4

would this mean that outside of runway models, you wouldn't need models to showcase your clothing anymore since you can just "wrap" your clothes over these AI humans?

No because the pictures are randomly generated. You can control some things like age, gender, and in this case probably things like dress length, but there's no way to say "here's an item of clothing, make them wear this". At least not yet.

Re: AI tech generates entire bodies of people who don't exist

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Post by jplayer01 »

RhodesianHunter wrote: post #40
GuiA wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fully agreed. One side effect of that is that while modeling has always been very hard to pierce into, at least there are modeling opportunities for non celebrities. As the practice of using AI to generate models for all but higher end stuff grows, it will get harder and harder to pierce into. It’ll go from an industry with tens of thousands of workers - some paid a lot, some much less - to just a few hundreds of hig…

> How will those people pay their bills now? The same way the luddites paid theirs I suppose

I find it frustrating how eager AI supporters are to dismiss legitimate concerns using the reasoning "Oh, well, it's always worked out before, I'm sure it'll work out again". What if it doesn't? And if it doesn't, it'll be too late to make changes and prevent suffering.
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