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Twisted graphene has become the big thing in physics

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Re: Twisted graphene has become the big thing in physics

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No, because that would violate the Law of Conservation of Energy, which according to our current understanding would imply that this form of "perpetual motion" is impossible as long as the system experiences some sort of load. [0] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservation_of_energy

I don’t think I’m talking about perpetual motion at all... When I say never loses a charge I don’t mean it’s limitless capacity. I mean it could be charged 1,000,000 times without any affect on the capacity of the system? Maybe a better way to say it, a battery that does not degrade with each use. Superconductors allow for the perfect transfer of electrons without any loss? So like if I had a giant earth sized graphe…

The second law of thermodynamics basically stipulates this is impossible. All materials wear out no matter what, even black holes eventually turn to entropy. You could create one with much better resistance to wear, but never completely resistant. Also I doubt true superconductors exist, it may be their losses exist below measurement error, but the fact that electrons are in relative motion, and are subject to the effects of the world around it, they must lose energy at some point.

Edit 1: Second, not first law Edit 2: In your second paragraph, you literally described a perpetual motion machine, electrons going around a circuit is still 'motion'

Re: Twisted graphene has become the big thing in physics

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I don’t think I’m talking about perpetual motion at all... When I say never loses a charge I don’t mean it’s limitless capacity. I mean it could be charged 1,000,000 times without any affect on the capacity of the system? Maybe a better way to say it, a battery that does not degrade with each use. Superconductors allow for the perfect transfer of electrons without any loss? So like if I had a giant earth sized graphe…

The second law of thermodynamics basically stipulates this is impossible. All materials wear out no matter what, even black holes eventually turn to entropy. You could create one with much better resistance to wear, but never completely resistant. Also I doubt true superconductors exist, it may be their losses exist below measurement error, but the fact that electrons are in relative motion, and are subject to the ef…

Um, no there are such things as frictionless machines which without interruption can run forever. That’s actually what superconductivity is—moving electrons without resistance (friction).

Re: Twisted graphene has become the big thing in physics

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The second law of thermodynamics basically stipulates this is impossible. All materials wear out no matter what, even black holes eventually turn to entropy. You could create one with much better resistance to wear, but never completely resistant. Also I doubt true superconductors exist, it may be their losses exist below measurement error, but the fact that electrons are in relative motion, and are subject to the ef…

Um, no there are such things as frictionless machines which without interruption can run forever. That’s actually what superconductivity is—moving electrons without resistance (friction).

That is what superconductivity is defined as, perhaps, but I'm saying, no such material is, nor can any construct be built to insulate a subset of the universe from the rest of the universe. So even if you magically made a material that in itself causes no friction, the electrons still have the rest of the universe to deal with. For example, how would electrons go around corners without having a force applied on it? How do you prevent magnetic interactions of electron in motion with things beyond the material from causing friction?

Re: Twisted graphene has become the big thing in physics

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Yes. There’s not applicable commercially viable things based on graphene yet. But superconductivity will be a revolution in many ways and especially in computing.

So how is that coming along. It seems like I've been hearing about graphene for ages now.

Re: Twisted graphene has become the big thing in physics

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Um, no there are such things as frictionless machines which without interruption can run forever. That’s actually what superconductivity is—moving electrons without resistance (friction).

That is what superconductivity is defined as, perhaps, but I'm saying, no such material is, nor can any construct be built to insulate a subset of the universe from the rest of the universe. So even if you magically made a material that in itself causes no friction, the electrons still have the rest of the universe to deal with. For example, how would electrons go around corners without having a force applied on it?…

I'm definitely not an expert, but just because you need force to go around corners doesn't mean you need work. An unchanging magnetic field in fact exactly accomplishes this, as it always accelerates an electron perpendicular to its motion, thereby leaving the energy of the electron unchanged.

Re: Twisted graphene has become the big thing in physics

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Yes. There’s not applicable commercially viable things based on graphene yet. But superconductivity will be a revolution in many ways and especially in computing.

Superconductivity would revolutionize transportation, low cost medical imaging with MRIs, and weapons. Lots of weapons.

You're forgetting the two most important; energy storage and transport.

Re: Twisted graphene has become the big thing in physics

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Re: Twisted graphene has become the big thing in physics

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That is what superconductivity is defined as, perhaps, but I'm saying, no such material is, nor can any construct be built to insulate a subset of the universe from the rest of the universe. So even if you magically made a material that in itself causes no friction, the electrons still have the rest of the universe to deal with. For example, how would electrons go around corners without having a force applied on it?…

I'm definitely not an expert, but just because you need force to go around corners doesn't mean you need work. An unchanging magnetic field in fact exactly accomplishes this, as it always accelerates an electron perpendicular to its motion, thereby leaving the energy of the electron unchanged.

That sounds a lot like a slingshot maneuver around a planet to get more momentum. Strictly speaking you're taking energy from the planet/sun to do so. An unchanging magnetic field still exists in the real universe, and I find it difficult to believe that it would be completely unaffected by the interaction. fwiw I'm also no expert

edit: I'm taking unchanging to be a practical implementation of say a permanent magnet here, rather than a theoretical construct.

Re: Twisted graphene has become the big thing in physics

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post #25

Yes. There’s not applicable commercially viable things based on graphene yet. But superconductivity will be a revolution in many ways and especially in computing.

So how is that coming along. It seems like I've been hearing about graphene for ages now.

Define 'ages'
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