Stripe’s fifth engineering hub is Remote

Post by weq » Fri, May 03, 2019, 3:24 AM UTC

ticmasta wrote: post #224

sethhochberg wrote: post #169

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I've seen 3 general schools of thought on remote pay: - its a global talent pool, so in raw dollars everyone should be on a level playing field (ie, compete for SF Bay wages no matter where you are in the world since that is generally the top wage market) - market rate for your current location (ie, whenever you choose to reside, you get paid an amount that provides a comfortable standard of living there, somewhat in…

Remote as a cost-cutting measure is the same as offshore, with the same poor results. There is no emphasis on quality; you've traded that dimension for some balance of cost & functionality. As soon as you move beyond trivial software projects the true effort is in the domain which depends on visibility and communication. You can do this with remote but I think it actually costs more outside of all but the highest tie…

Post by weq » Fri, May 03, 2019, 3:28 AM UTC

sethhochberg wrote: post #238

ticmasta wrote: post #224

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Remote as a cost-cutting measure is the same as offshore, with the same poor results. There is no emphasis on quality; you've traded that dimension for some balance of cost & functionality. As soon as you move beyond trivial software projects the true effort is in the domain which depends on visibility and communication. You can do this with remote but I think it actually costs more outside of all but the highest tie…

For sure - if you make all of the same mistakes with remote teams that companies are so prone to making with offshoring companies (little to no integration into the rest of the business, little vetting of individual contributors, using metrics to incentivize all of the wrong kinds of behavior, chasing low costs instead of skill and business value) you'll get all of the same typically-horrible results.

Post by toephu2 » Fri, May 03, 2019, 3:30 AM UTC

scapegoat444 wrote: post #18

skizm wrote: post #12

Where do I apply?

and how is the pay?

Post by mourner » Fri, May 03, 2019, 8:45 AM UTC

incanus77 wrote: post #110

This is such a smart move. I was one of the first two simul-hire remotes at Mapbox (when the company was ~12 people) and, until I left in 2017, the longest-term remote there at seven years. I've been fully remote for thirteen years. At Mapbox, I unofficially took on the role of internal advocate for remote culture. It wasn't always easy to be remote, but as the company grew, Eric, the CEO, was fond of saying that "ev…

Post by sparkpy724 » Fri, May 03, 2019, 2:02 PM UTC

sidlls wrote: post #201

sparkpy724 wrote: post #174

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> improve our ability to tap the 99.74% of talented engineers living outside the metro areas of our first four hubs Bbbut the only good engineers are in the Bay Area!!!! /s

Most of them are in tech hubs like the bay area. I know it's popular to dismiss that view as unjustified arrogance or whatever, but I've actually made a living in the Midwest and other "not a tech hub" locations. The difference in interest and ability cannot be overstated: my colleagues in SF are heads and shoulders above the typical developer I worked with in those other places.