Microsoft, currently the most valuable company, is having a Nadellaissance

Post by cjarrett » Fri, May 03, 2019, 12:25 AM UTC

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biggest negative I would say is getting rid of the SDET role and moving them into Telemetry. It moved the onus of testing on Devs who've never done it before as part of their job and thusly very lacking. The bungled W10 recent releases can be directly tied back to this model. As PMs and Devs don't account for testing like they used to before shipping to customers. This may be fine and dandy short-term, but if you're…

> It moved the onus of testing on Devs who've never done it before as part of their job Could this explain some of the QA blunders like some Windows 10 users losing files after an upgrade? If so the move may turn out far more costly than any savings or telemetry gains.

Post by robwilliams » Fri, May 03, 2019, 12:34 AM UTC

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> There’s a bit of Silicon Valley cred, too, thanks to its acquisitions of LinkedIn, the professional social network, and GitHub, the software code repository. I would have thought open sourcing so much of it's framework, vscode, and typescript would have had a greater impact.

> I would have thought open sourcing so much of it's framework I have a pedantic correction here. Instead of open sourcing the .NET Framework they wrote a new opensource framework (named .NET core) that is very similar to their closed source framework. Microsoft is currently supporting and expanding both frameworks.

Post by pm90 » Fri, May 03, 2019, 12:59 AM UTC

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A big tech company harvesting extensive user data by default and saying it's ok because "Trust us, we don't do anything bad with it" is not a compelling argument these days. Even if it's true (and that's a big if), that says nothing about what Microsoft will do with the data tomorrow, or the next day.

It's on by default, but literally the first thing we ask you, actively, is about giving us feedback and let you turn it off right then. It's not remotely hidden. I totally understand, though about trust. We've been asking users for feedback for 20+ years, I hope we've shown ourselves to be good actors! Disclosure: I work at Azure on machine learning

Post by kuzehanka » Fri, May 03, 2019, 1:27 AM UTC

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Linux seems to be doing just fine keeping software maintained without ads or harvesting data. This mindset is toxic and needs to die.

[disclosure, MS employee] With the absence of telemetry, how do you know Linux is doing just fine? (specifically in the desktop world, not server world). Microsoft has an interest in knowing how well Windows is doing, and Windows has lived in a world both with and without telemetry. It was way, way harder to gauge success prior to telemetry, and it was also much more frustrating for the user to communicate their prob…

Post by jacques_chester » Fri, May 03, 2019, 1:47 AM UTC

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As an investor I bought few years ago MSFT stock. I did it as I saw two things: 1. azure 2. o365 1. because I knew what happened (and was happening) with AWS 2. because microsoft moved to subscription model Those two things, connected with third "secret" incredient: BIGGEST user base (corporate) which WILL use those two offerings = success. Satya is/may be great. I bought stock around 2014/2015 because of the above a…

Recurring payments scale well in good times. No one really knows what’s going to happen in a recession. I suspect it won’t be pretty. Revenues will probably contract just as well in the reverse direction and I suspect many customers will look to cut costs by eliminating monthly recurring expenses. Perhaps recurring revenue business will be more resilient. I can see a path for that as well. But no one really knows.