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Jack Dorsey Is Gwyneth Paltrow for Silicon Valley

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Reading the article here are the things Jack does: 1) 10 day meditation retreats 2) Sauna and ice baths 3) Walking 5 miles to work 4) Daily intermittent fasting 5) Drinking salt juice Could you point out which of these activities would be deemed 'quackery'? These all seem like fairly benign things, with backing from scientific studies or centuries of tribal knowledge being passed down. I doubt we will ever escape the…

> Could you point out which of these activities would be deemed 'quackery'? These all seem like fairly benign things, with backing from scientific studies or centuries of tribal knowledge being passed down. You conveniently omitted the parts that aren't backed by science. It's not just a sauna, it's a "near infrared" sauna. Saunas aren't quackery but a near infrared Sauna is. It's also probably dangerous. The article…

Cryotherapy is mentioned in the article, but this is merely a sly sleight of hand by a journalist with an anti-tech bias, I would encourage you to reread it. If you actually search Jack Dorsey + cryotherapy, nowhere does he endorse or talk about using cryotherapy. He does espouse the value of cold ice baths though (which have shown to have several positive benefits)

From a quick Google Scholar search it seems that there are plenty of studies showing the efficacy of near-nfrared light treatment, so I can see why he would upgrade his sauna with one. Whereas I haven't seen you back up your claim of the danger of infrared saunas (Done in moderate dosages, not in extremes).

1) A Controlled Trial to Determine the Efficacy of Red and Near-Infrared Light Treatment in Patient Satisfaction, Reduction of Fine Lines, Wrinkles, Skin Roughness, and Intradermal Collagen Density Increase https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3926176/

"RLT and ELT are large-area and full-body treatment modalities for skin rejuvenation and improvements in skin feeling and skin complexion. The application of RLT and ELT provides a safe, non-ablative, non-thermal, atraumatic photobiomodulation treatment of skin tissue with high patient satisfaction rates. RLT and ELT can extend the spectrum of anti-aging treatment options available to patients looking for mild and pleasant light-only skin rejuvenation."

2) Biological effects and medical applications of infrared radiation https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5505738/

IR appears to be more versatile than other electromagnetic wavelengths (such as visible light) as it can induce neural stimulation effects as well as promoting a wide range of therapeutic benefits in cells or tissues. An increasing number of new reports in recent years have indicated that different forms IR application have clear clinical benefits, and the mechanisms of IR are becoming clarified. Moreover therapeutic levels of IR can be delivered using devices without any external power source, simply by using the heat production of the human body to drive emission of FIR from materials containing minerals.

3) Far-infrared therapy for cardiovascular, autoimmune, and other chronic health problems: A systematic review https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4935255/

"As a potential complementary therapy, FIR radiation had both thermal and non-thermal effects. The thermal effect of FIR therapy could increase blood flow and vasodilation by heating the tissue (hyperthermia), similar to ordinary thermal therapy composed of heat pads or hot water.87 In addition, FIR treatment with low levels of delivered energy (non-thermal effect) also had biological activities.88,89 A study of patients receiving HD treatment had shown decreases in stress and fatigue levels by FIR stimulation rather than thermal treatment (heat pads), which was probably attributed to the non-thermal effect.10 An explanation of non-thermal effect of such low energy levels was that nanoscopic water layers got disturbed by low irradiances, leading to the change of cellular membrane structure, then made the therapeutic effects.87"

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Hang on. I am the last thing from a Jack Dorsey fan. However, I see nowhere in his somewhat grotesque tweets where he tells me what I should do. As near as I can tell, he is simply telling us what he is doing.

I agree. Which points to a similar problem with this article. Dorsey suggests saunas, and Bowles takes it further, talking about "Faraday Saunas", making Dorsey seem more asinine when Dorsey never mentioned that in the first place.

This is the death rattle of a dying media that will soon be replaced.

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I'm sorry to say that Jobs had a lot of people throwing reason out the window as well. Elizabeth Holmes is a great example of the cargo cult around his style and management methods. And when he died, people literally built an altar to him: https://surjgish.com/2011/miscellaneous-fun/dia-de-los-muert...

I don't believe those are "altars" in the sense that you're implying, as if people are worshipping him. They are ofrendas [0] which are part of the Day of the Dead celebrations. My understanding is that they are usually reserved for loved ones but beloved public figures are included as well. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ofrenda

They are also called "altares de muertos" in Spanish, and are generally called altars in English. And yes, I think "worship" is not a bad way to describe how people often treat celebrities, Jobs included. We call it "cult of personality" for a reason, after all.

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I could see people considering “For 10 days a year, he sits in silence at a meditation retreat. Before getting dressed each morning, he experiments with using his home infrared sauna and then an ice bath, sometimes cycling through both several times before he leaves home.” along the same lines.

How is a 10-day meditation retreat bullshit? Or sauna/ice cold baths? These activities have both been done for decades/centuries and have the backing of scientific studies.

I’m not trying to say it’s my opinion.

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Antidepressants undergo clinical trials and are prescribed by medical professionals. There is no glamour or publicity in that at all. The comparison would be closer if you were talking about IG fitness influencers selling 'fit tea' and 'all-day energy BBCAs'.

I'm sure the fasting market is really going to take off soon, there's a killing to be made selling absolutely nothing.

The "fasting" is the "nothing". The "fasting prep" is where the money will be made:

- sleep optimization products (white noise machines, blackout curtains, lucid dreaming BS guides)

- fasting-friendly recipes and nutritional guides

- branded water flasks

etc. etc.

I've seen college kids on IG sell "workout guides" which are basically a Word doc they converted to PDF. They look like models, so polish and presentation of the final product isn't nearly as important as the polish and presentation the influencer put on themselves before going on camera.

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