Given the new Travel ID requirements coming up, I'm not surprised in the slightest by this.
JetBlue explains to a passenger how it got a photo of her face
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Re: JetBlue explains to a passenger how it got a photo of her face
#12That's just bizarre. This would never, ever, fly under the GDPR.
In this case since the company does not store the images GDPR doesn’t apply.
Re: JetBlue explains to a passenger how it got a photo of her face
#13I guess now we all know what the REAL ID act was about. https://www.dhs.gov/real-id
Exactly... my only real issue with this is that you are restricted from travel by other conventional means (bus), and are also restricted from being able to leave the country without it (of course being up to other countries to let you enter without it).
Re: JetBlue explains to a passenger how it got a photo of her face
#14That's just bizarre. This would never, ever, fly under the GDPR.
In this case since the company does not store the images GDPR doesn’t apply.
Doesn't the GDPR also apply to entities that process personal data (as opposed to only those that store it)?
AFAIK it should apply to entities that share personal data with third parties, for instance.
Re: JetBlue explains to a passenger how it got a photo of her face
#15I guess now we all know what the REAL ID act was about. https://www.dhs.gov/real-id
This was somewhat explicitly what REAL ID was about. Provide name age, address and photo to the feds along with any related state ID info (which often correlates easily with fed info). I would not be surprised if airport cameras already put "citizen ids" on photos for the right folks...
Re: JetBlue explains to a passenger how it got a photo of her face
#16That's just bizarre. This would never, ever, fly under the GDPR.
it would actually, biometric ids etc are allowed for various regulated reasons -- identifying folks who cross national boundaries is likely one of them
Re: JetBlue explains to a passenger how it got a photo of her face
#17That's just bizarre. This would never, ever, fly under the GDPR.
Are you sure? According to what the airline said, the airline doesn't have the facial recognition data; rather they are just taking photos from passengers who opt in to board via this method, and the photos only need to be stored for a few seconds so they can be sent to DHS for verification. The airline isn't taking or storing photos of passengers who don't opt into this process, but it is presumably sending the gove…
The government already sees all the flight manifests. Assuming that it also has a database of photos from passports, the matching process doesn't violate anyone's privacy, since they opted in to have their photo matched in the first place.
Re: JetBlue explains to a passenger how it got a photo of her face
#18Most relevant details, from the last link [1]: > It took her photo, comparing her picture to a preloaded photo databased of all the passengers with tickets on this flight, and then she got a check mark, indicating she was cleared to board. The whole process took about five to six seconds. > The Aruba experiment is expected to last somewhere between 45 and 90 days. > "We're basically capturing that picture at the boar…
Is it really that useful to identify someone who has overstayed their visa when they are leaving the country? Sure, you then know not to let them in next time. But it seems like a lot of effort when there are so many people overstaying their visa and not leaving out of the airports.
That said, even as a libertarian, privacy-conscious person, I'm not sure I have a problem with exit controls like this. It's important to know who is crossing the border, in both directions.
But why do they even need the photo? Presumably the name is already on the ticket... surely they can detect overstays from names + address alone, not just photos?
Re: JetBlue explains to a passenger how it got a photo of her face
#19The passenger seems surprised that her picture has been taken and stored... I wonder if she realizes her picture is on her twitter account?
Re: JetBlue explains to a passenger how it got a photo of her face
#20That's just bizarre. This would never, ever, fly under the GDPR.
In this case since the company does not store the images GDPR doesn’t apply.
Even if they don't retain the images, it's a veritable treasure trove for security agencies, who will almost certainly be hoovering them up, either with or without the company's knowledge.