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What better aid to our enemies than spending trillions on a futile war?
Generally, spending too much money to bomb the shit out of your enemies is not considering providing aid to them....anywhere.
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What better way to give aid to our enemies than to conduct an expensive war on false pretenses and illegally classify information that would have likely led to public distaste for the war? Imagine if the leaks showed that the officials wasted money in some other way such as taking gold reserves and destroying them in a nuclear explosion, or sending gold reserves to cronies in other nations. Theft is theft. Our enemie…
What better way to give aid to our enemies than to conduct an expensive war on false pretenses and illegally classify information that would have likely led to public distaste for the war? Giving money to our enemies would be a better way to give them aid. Or weapons. Or supplies. Or pretty much anything, really. One thing which is not giving aid to our enemies is to fight a war against them, on whatever pretenses, w…
If we have actual enemies, we can be sure that they want us to waste as much money as possible on futile wars.
If we have actual enemies, we can be sure that they want our leaders to circumvent the Democratic process to steal money that could be spent on domestic programs or returned to taxpayers and instead spend it on pointless wars.
I’d we have enemies, we can be sure they want our leaders to spend billions making us hate, fear, and mistrust brown people, and crave strong man leaders over pluralism and liberty.
Assange revealed that our leaders are acting in concert with such enemies.
We can’t separate the lies from the theft. The lies about the war and the illegally classified info that the war logs revealed are what make the theft of resources possible.
All the lives lost are of course also a major issue but the theft aspect makes it easier to see what a sacrifice we were all forced to make to wage the wars.
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You mean the investigation that proved that Assange attempted to weaponize the grief of a family for the gain of Russian political interests? That investigation?
Actually, there was some evidence that Seth Rich was indeed in contact with Wikileaks. There is no confirmation that he actually was the source of any leaks but there were email exchanges with Assange on his laptop and he appeared to be _intending_ to leak at least. This was according to Seymore Hersh, you can find audio of him describing Rich's involvement and other discussion on the topic. To be clear, Rich's murde…
This is the definition of fake news disseminated by the Russians and the Republicans that want to cover for them.
Source from the other link: https://www.npr.org/2017/08/01/540783715/lawsuit-alleges-fox...
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What better way to give aid to our enemies than to conduct an expensive war on false pretenses and illegally classify information that would have likely led to public distaste for the war? Giving money to our enemies would be a better way to give them aid. Or weapons. Or supplies. Or pretty much anything, really. One thing which is not giving aid to our enemies is to fight a war against them, on whatever pretenses, w…
You miss the point of my comment. The group our politicians call enemies may or may not be. If we have actual enemies, we can be sure that they want us to waste as much money as possible on futile wars. If we have actual enemies, we can be sure that they want our leaders to circumvent the Democratic process to steal money that could be spent on domestic programs or returned to taxpayers and instead spend it on pointl…
People who blow up Americans are our enemies. They brag about being our enemies online and in traditional media, at least until we blow them up using very expensive bombs. These wars were authorized by duly elected legislative representatives at the behest of multiple ideologically-opposing executive administrations.
One of these presidents was a black/brown man, who spent his time in office addressing racial tensions. The other, more recent president--the one inflaming racial tensions--received political assistance from Assange, who openly admits to choosing to spread DNC leaks harmful to Clinton and choosing not to publish any negative documents about Trump, despite having access to a plethora of such documents.
Assange revealed nothing, except that he's just as petty and partisan as everyone else, and just as capable of lies as the politicians he claimed he was trying to take down.
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Generally, spending too much money to bomb the shit out of your enemies is not considering providing aid to them....anywhere.
You are assuming that the groups we are told are our enemies are actually enemies, and that they are the most significant enemies.
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You are assuming that the groups we are told are our enemies are actually enemies, and that they are the most significant enemies.
I assume none of that. I know people who died in 9/11, people who died in Mumbai, and people who died in the San Bernardino shooting. I don't need to be told by anyone that the terrorist cowards behind those bombings are our enemies--that much was obvious from them bombing us .
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You miss the point of my comment. The group our politicians call enemies may or may not be. If we have actual enemies, we can be sure that they want us to waste as much money as possible on futile wars. If we have actual enemies, we can be sure that they want our leaders to circumvent the Democratic process to steal money that could be spent on domestic programs or returned to taxpayers and instead spend it on pointl…
Literally everything you said is alt-right conspiracy nonsense. People who blow up Americans are our enemies. They brag about being our enemies online and in traditional media, at least until we blow them up using very expensive bombs. These wars were authorized by duly elected legislative representatives at the behest of multiple ideologically-opposing executive administrations. One of these presidents was a black/b…
> People who blow up Americans are our enemies.
The groups doing those things have been funded by the US government quite recently, and would likely not exist if the US government hadn't tried to meddle in the middle east decades ago.
> These wars were authorized by duly elected legislative representatives
Sort of. The wars would likely not have escalated if the information in the Iraq war logs was known earlier. The war logs showed that the US classified information about what was actually going on in the war so that the public would continue to support it. If the American people knew that it was a proxy war against Iran and that the US was abetting war crimes against former Baath party members, it is unlikely that the war would have continued.
> at the behest of multiple ideologically-opposing executive administrations.
If you think the major parties are in disagreement on war related issues you are not paying close attention. There are only minor points of disagreement.
> openly admits to choosing to spread DNC leaks harmful to Clinton and choosing not to publish any negative documents about Trump, despite having access to a plethora of such documents.
Assange's decision not to publish material related to Trump was based on it already having been widely published or based on its questionable authenticity. Do you really think that anything damning about Trump could have been kept secret? I think that sounds a bit like a conspiracy theory :)
> Assange revealed nothing
I'm not sure if you have read the war logs, but there was significant information revealed that should make the American people quite angry, both about the loss of life caused by the wars and the massive amount of money wasted on the wars.
The Iraq and Afghanistan wars have cost an amount equal to a 50% tax cut for all Americans earning under $500K for seven years in a row.
The amount of suffering caused by the misallocation of funds (which Assange helped expose) is monumental.
Keep in mind all the crimes by US officials that Assange revealed. In my view many of those crimes committed by officials are treason, yet all have been swept under the rug.
None of the things he revealed can be classified as treason. War crimes maybe, treason no way. I also wonder why he never revealed any of Russia's alleged crimes in Ukraine or Syria. Just a thought.
The men and women of the armed forces risk their lives over these wars. The public funds them with taxation. The wars have cost as much as 7 years of a 50% tax cut for everyone earning under $500K. That is such a large number that any social program, any infrastructure challenge is dwarfed by it. The post 9/11 wars are the biggest financial fraud in the history of the world.
We found out thanks to Assange that our leaders hid information from us so that they could continue stealing our money to wage a war that was very different from what they claimed it was.
We place a great deal of trust in our leaders, and Assange showed that it was not deserved. Still, none of the leaders who did this have been brought to justice.
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I assume none of that. I know people who died in 9/11, people who died in Mumbai, and people who died in the San Bernardino shooting. I don't need to be told by anyone that the terrorist cowards behind those bombings are our enemies--that much was obvious from them bombing us .
And you think the dollars spent on the wars have actually done anything to prevent future attacks such as the ones you mention?
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He can face more charges later, possibly more are already under seal. It is very unlikely he will face capital punishment, there is also legal precedent from the '60s in federal cases that makes it so.
He cannot. https://www.gov.uk/guidance/extradition-processes-and-review... > Extradition is prohibited by statute if: > ... > there are no speciality arrangements with the requesting country – ‘speciality’ requires that the person must be dealt with in the requesting state only for the offences for which they have been extradited (except in certain limited circumstances) Here's the relevant law: https://www.legislati…