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Facebook Bans Louis Farrakhan, Milo Yiannopoulos, InfoWars and Others

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Re: Facebook Bans Louis Farrakhan, Milo Yiannopoulos, InfoWars and Others

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WHY THIS IS CENSORSHIP: I am seeing numerous comments claiming this is not censorship when it most definitely is. From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship > Censorship is the suppression of speech, public communication, or other information, on the basis that such material is considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, or "inconvenient". Censorship can be conducted by a government, private institutions, and co…

Not giving a microphone to someone is not the same as censoring them.

Re: Facebook Bans Louis Farrakhan, Milo Yiannopoulos, InfoWars and Others

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It’s only unfortunate that it took social networks this long to ban their toxic behavior and talk. These people did a lot of damage. A lot. All in the name of free speech. And to those saying, just because Facebook can, doesn’t mean they should. These people had the same freedom. Just because they can, they shouldn’t. But they chose hatred. And here we are. You reap what you sow. Facebook doesn’t owe them anything. E…

Some people like to have an unlimited variety of opinions available, and others like to live in an echo chamber. Facebook is very good at creating echo chambers.

Re: Facebook Bans Louis Farrakhan, Milo Yiannopoulos, InfoWars and Others

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...and nothing of value was lost. Facebook is not the government. They have no obligation to allow all speech.

I wish all users had your capacity for reason. FB is private property. Play by their rules or GTFO. People who scream about censorship in instances such as these are being willfully dismissive of the property rights of others. And that's a dangerous road to start down.

Earnest question - how do you feel about the bakery owner who refused to bake a cake to celebrate the marriage of the gay couple in Colorado?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masterpiece_Cakeshop_v._Colora...

Same basic scenario? Or there further nuance?

Re: Facebook Bans Louis Farrakhan, Milo Yiannopoulos, InfoWars and Others

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Sounds fine to me. HN bans and threatens to ban people too and that's a good thing.

Exactly, nearly every online forum does the same thing. It's normal and healthy. Luckily, there's no shortage of forums to move on to.

Re: Facebook Bans Louis Farrakhan, Milo Yiannopoulos, InfoWars and Others

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I don't know about Paul Joseph but I believe Milo has had cases of publicly naming, threatening to name, doxxing, and mocking trans women that study on the campuses that he's spoken at. I belive this is dangerous behavior due to statistic that trans people are especially vulnerable for being murdered compared to the rest of the American population.

Indeed, Milo is not too different from Info Wars. These people use the classic tactic of saying something insanely outlandish, and when they are called out on it, they just use the "I was obviously sarcastic" card.

Even if they are just joking, their followers most definitely take their message at face value, and that's exactly why they are dangerous.

Re: Facebook Bans Louis Farrakhan, Milo Yiannopoulos, InfoWars and Others

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It works to remove platforms from people who spread hate and misinformation. https://mashable.com/article/milo-yiannopoulos-deplatforming...

So will CNN, MSNBC, FoxNews, etc. finally be de-platformed for "Weapons of Mass Destruction". This has caused actual destruction in terms of trillions of dollars, thousands of American lives and hundreds of thousands of Iraqi's lives and the rise of ISIS with massive destruction in the middle east.

There's a difference between "making a mistake" and being an agent whose goal is to spread hate and misinformation.

Re: Facebook Bans Louis Farrakhan, Milo Yiannopoulos, InfoWars and Others

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

When you’re talking about someone like Farrakhan, and the explicit racial basis for slavery and segregation, is simply being “racist” sufficient justification for a ban? By that same token, can Facebook ban say Armenians for being racist against Turks? Should Facebook step blithely into these very complex issues?

Farrakhan was banned for being a notorious anti-Semite; being black doesn't give you a free pass to incite hatred against Jews. This isn't a complex issue.

NOI (and by extension Farrakhan) is not simply 'anti semitic'.

They are black supremacist.

Re: Facebook Bans Louis Farrakhan, Milo Yiannopoulos, InfoWars and Others

#170

Funny how most of you doesn't seem to understand that it's not the banned people who are dangerous. It's Facebook. Stay off the platform and encourage others to do the same. Read news from respected news outlets and remember that there are always multiple sides to a story.

Why not both? They're dangerous in different ways, but just because Facebook has its set of issues doesn't mean those people should have a platform to spread their non-sense to the masses.
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