Microsoft, currently the most valuable company, is having a Nadellaissance

Post by jonny_eh » Thu, May 02, 2019, 6:23 PM UTC

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In what way was MS sinking under Ballmer? Maybe they were not exciting but they were super profitable every year. I think it's more about better PR. Not everything is golden at MS now either. I am working on creating a platform for our medical software on Windows 10 and it really makes me want to switch to Linux or iOS. Windows is a big mess of old and new code and attempts of sandboxing like iOS but only half-hearte…

Windows always been a pain to develop for. And every Windows version redundantly includes "a new api for everything" alongside all the horrible legacy stuff. But Microsoft's recent efforts on Linux & macOS, i.e. VSCode, has been surprisingly good. They do a lot of things, I think Typescript is run by MS as well. So that's something that positively changed under Nadella.

Post by amelius » Thu, May 02, 2019, 6:26 PM UTC

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I’ve always found this phrase an oxymoron.

Don't trust, verify.

Post by thereare5lights » Thu, May 02, 2019, 6:28 PM UTC

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There is telemetry built into VS Code that you can turn off, but it is turned on by default. There is no way to know how they're using that data. Microsoft also collects data on Office365 platform and even local Office 2019 installs. I was trying was to make a tongue in cheek point, rather than specifically digging into exact methods of how they collect data. You may be right but it is besides the core issue we are d…

We don't do any training on your data. Telemetry is largely for feature use tracking (eg we should really do better around this component, everyone is using it). There is absolutely no ads overlap at all. Literally none. Disclosure: I work at Azure but not on VS Code

Post by GuiA » Thu, May 02, 2019, 6:29 PM UTC

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Having read Nadella's book Hit Refresh as soon as it went on sale, Microsoft performance since then doesn't look surprising at all. Having listed what's wrong (with their product focus, company culture etc), and where they plan to head, its' almost like the book informs the reader where puck is going to be (from Satya's POV). It's funny that 15 years back I was so anti MS and pro Google and now I think it's the other…

> It's funny that 15 years back I was so anti MS and pro Google and now I think it's the other way! You should be pro-neither. Microsoft used to be against FOSS because they thought it would make them more money; Microsoft is currently friendlier to FOSS because they think it will make them more money. Does that make them bad people? No because all businesses are that way, even the vaunted "don't be evil" Google.

Post by axefrog » Thu, May 02, 2019, 6:33 PM UTC

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> "Contextual recommendations are based on practices developed in thousands of high quality, open-source projects on GitHub each with high star ratings." Wait, what? Is there a way to opt out of that in GitHub? I don't want their AI to scan my code. Realistically, since most of my GH code is Common Lisp with few stars, I doubt it's looking anyway, but I'd like to make sure. I'm sure it's covered in their TOS, but as…

I disagree with the paren't sentiment but I think they raise an interesting point: is/should there be a license that says: you can read/use/modify {this} but you cannot use it as a training data for the AI. {this} can be code or text or an image or any other content.